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Bromley, Code 25 loading bay, Cottingham Road, Penge
DIR By: Feline_Foxy
Date: May 28, 2025, 4:36 pm
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My father got a PCN for being briefly in a loading bay.
Is there anything for this location - signage compliance,
underlying traffic orders or some such???
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Re: Bromley, Code 25 loading bay, Cottingham Road, Penge
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 28, 2025, 5:11 pm
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Re: Bromley, Code 25 loading bay, Cottingham Road, Penge
DIR By: Feline_Foxy
Date: May 28, 2025, 5:37 pm
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Thanks, I'll try again
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Re: Bromley, Code 25 loading bay, Cottingham Road, Penge
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 28, 2025, 6:37 pm
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A really quite disgraceful placement of the sign controlling the
bay, but whether this would win at an adjudication is another
matter. The bay does have the text "Loading Only" on the
carriageway by the bay, and a motorist parking in any marked out
bay has a duty to look for the sign controlling the bay. But
would this motorist look for a sign that sits almost out of
sight below the street name ?
Is there any background info on why your father parked there ?
In order to give full advice we need to be in possession of all
the facts.
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Re: Bromley, Code 25 loading bay, Cottingham Road, Penge
DIR By: Feline_Foxy
Date: May 29, 2025, 3:00 am
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No there is no background that would help really. He told the
attendant that he was loading (has the receipt for a few
turnips!) but the attendant said he had already started so
couldn't cancel it.
How far can we go with the low sign?
And is there anything else?
Thank you
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Re: Bromley, Code 25 loading bay, Cottingham Road, Penge
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 29, 2025, 4:07 am
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>
> No there is no background that would help really. He told the
attendant that he was loading (has the receipt for a few
turnips!) but the attendant said he had already started so
couldn't cancel it.
>
> How far can we go with the low sign?
>
> And is there anything else?
>
> Thank you
>
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What was "a few turnips" ? Weight ? Bulk ?
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Re: Bromley, Code 25 loading bay, Cottingham Road, Penge
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 29, 2025, 5:19 am
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We've had the watermelon defence. Now comes the turnips.
If this were a 24 hour loading bay the regulations now say an
upright sign isn't needed but here as it's a timed restriction
the sign is needed and should be better sited but the road
markings are sufficient to put a driver on notice.
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Re: Bromley, Code 25 loading bay, Cottingham Road, Penge
DIR By: Feline_Foxy
Date: May 29, 2025, 6:44 am
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Watermelons, turnips, I bet they get all sorts of 'loading'
stories! Unfortunately not too many turnips to carry in this
scenario.
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> here as it's a timed restriction the sign is needed and should
be better sited but the road markings are sufficient to put a
driver on notice
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>> what could we say re this
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Re: Bromley, Code 25 loading bay, Cottingham Road, Penge
DIR By: Feline_Foxy
Date: June 1, 2025, 5:23 am
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Is there any legislation, any guidelines (or better still
stipulations) that have been thwarted???
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Re: Bromley, Code 25 loading bay, Cottingham Road, Penge
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 1, 2025, 5:38 am
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So did he just go shopping or was he picking up preordered
things.
Any health issues.
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