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#Post#: 73442--------------------------------------------------
Wing security limited - Haringey N8
DIR By: Giorgio
Date: May 27, 2025, 10:20 am
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Hi,
Wonder if you can help with a quick question. Historically, we
have always parked in the bays provided, displayed the valid
blue badge clearly and this has always been allowed (see
signage).
Recently, we have been issued with multiple tickets despite
displaying the badge.
I don’t currently have access to the ticket so cannot upload,
but have previously posted on pepipoo in the past, and was told
wing parking / wing security limited are not registered with the
correct companies and therefore should not be able to obtain
details from the DVLA, and so any of their tickets should be
ignored. I have checked online and it still looks as though they
are not registered but want to confirm I should still be
ignoring them.
I’m presuming it’s someone new on the job and is issuing tickets
to everyone or they are hoping someone contends the ticket and
contacts them (as they got the location wrong each time)…
Grateful for confirmation!
Thank you
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#Post#: 73446--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wing security limited - Haringey N8
DIR By: b789
Date: May 27, 2025, 10:28 am
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You are correct that Wing Security is not an approved operator
of either the BPA or IPC and do not have access to the DVLA
Keeper data through the KADOe system.
I am assuming that the "tickets" you are referring to are
Notices to Driver (NtD) that were affixed to the windscreen.
Please show us one of these "tickets", assuming they are all for
the same vehicle and location. Leave all dates and times visible
and show both sides of it.
If the Keeper has received anything in the post from this
company, show us that too.
#Post#: 73452--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wing security limited - Haringey N8
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: May 27, 2025, 10:44 am
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For a bit of extra context here, I had a fun exchange with
Haringey council about Wing a little while ago. A short (and
rather bizarre) summary is below:
- I submitted an FOI about Haringey's agreement with Wing, after
Wing told the BPA they no longer provide services for Haringey
Council (this was in response to a complaint by me about them
displaying a BPA AOS logo on some of their signage).
- Haringey responded to say Wing do still currently provide
parking serivces to them, but showed me a contract that expired
in 2018.
- When I questioned this discrepancy, I was told this was the
most recent contractual documentation available, but that Wing
were still providing services to Haringey, until they bring
parking enforcement in house by Q1 2027.
But otherwise, yes, as indicated they can be ignored if you've
received nothing through the post.
#Post#: 73457--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wing security limited - Haringey N8
DIR By: b789
Date: May 27, 2025, 10:54 am
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I suggest the following, updated, FOI request be sent to
Haringey:
--- Quote ---
> To: foi@haringey.gov.uk
>
> Subject: FOI Request – Parking Enforcement by Wing Security
Ltd at Miles Road, N8
>
> Dear Haringey Council FOI Team,
>
> I am submitting this request under the Freedom of Information
Act 2000. I refer to a sign currently displayed at Miles Road,
N8, bearing the Haringey Council logo and naming Wing Security
Ltd as the enforcement company managing private parking at this
location.
>
> Please provide the following information:
>
> [indent]1. Ownership or Control
>
> [indent]a. Is the land at or near Miles Road, N8 where the
sign is located owned, leased or managed by Haringey Council?
> b. If so, please provide the title reference and a description
of the Council’s legal interest in the land.[/indent]
>
> 2. Authority for Parking Enforcement
>
> [indent]a. Has Haringey Council entered into any contractual
agreement or memorandum of understanding with Wing Security Ltd
for the purposes of parking enforcement at this location?
> b. If yes, please supply a copy of that contract or agreement,
redacted only where strictly necessary.[/indent]
>
> 3. Use of Haringey Council Branding
>
> [indent]a. Has Wing Security Ltd been formally authorised to
use the Haringey Council logo or branding on parking signage?
> b. If so, when was that authorisation granted and for what
purpose?[/indent]
>
> 4. DVLA Data Access
>
> [indent]a. Has Haringey Council authorised Wing Security Ltd
to act on its behalf in obtaining DVLA vehicle keeper data for
the purpose of issuing Parking Charge Notices (PCNs)?
> b. Does Haringey Council itself access DVLA data in relation
to alleged parking contraventions at Miles Road, N8? If so,
please confirm under what statutory powers.[/indent]
>
> 5. Type of Enforcement
>
> [indent]a. Is parking enforcement at this location conducted
under the Traffic Management Act 2004, local byelaws, or via a
private civil contractual model?[/indent][/indent]
>
> Please treat this as a formal request for recorded
information. If any part of this request is unclear, I would be
grateful if you could contact me for clarification rather than
refuse the request.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> [Your Name]
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Re: Wing security limited - Haringey N8
DIR By: Giorgio
Date: May 30, 2025, 10:09 pm
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This is a picture of the notice. The back is blank so I have
only uploaded the front. They are all for the same vehicle and
were parked on Miles Road, not Moselle Close.
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#Post#: 73996--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wing security limited - Haringey N8
DIR By: b789
Date: May 30, 2025, 11:01 pm
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My advice is to ignore this PCN. They have no idea who the
driver is. They cannot transfer liability to the Keeper. If they
request Keeper data from the DVLA, then they will have done so
illegally and breached your GDPR.
Come back if/when you receive anything in the post addressed to
the Keeper.
#Post#: 74025--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wing security limited - Haringey N8
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: May 31, 2025, 6:18 am
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I agree with [member=26]b789[/member], Wing can be ignored -
we've never (yet) seen them issue Notices to Keeper for the
reasons discussed above.
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