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TFL, 46: Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway),
O/S Greencourt HSE, Mile End Road E1
DIR By: flash2005
Date: May 26, 2025, 5:56 am
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The driver had stopped for some time (3 mins approx) on Mile End
Road, to investigate a loud noise coming from the HVAC of the
car. You can see in the pictures that the car brake lights are
on. At no point did anybody step out of the car. However a
ticket has been issued for parking by TFL. There was a
malfunction which created a big distraction for the driver and
hence there was a need to stop on the side of the road to
investigate. At no point did the driver step out of the car as
you can see the engine and brake lights switched on throughout
the period. I also visited the car service centre next day to
get the issue diagnosed and resolved. The contravention happened
as the driver was alarmed by the issue with the car. Are there
any grounds to contest this ticket ? Can I lodge an appeal with
this explanation ?
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#Post#: 73271--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL, 46: Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or
clearway), O/S Greencourt HSE, Mile End Road E1
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: May 26, 2025, 6:02 am
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> I also visited the car service centre next day to get the
issue diagnosed and resolved.
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Any paperwork to support this?
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Re: TFL, 46: Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or
clearway), O/S Greencourt HSE, Mile End Road E1
DIR By: flash2005
Date: May 26, 2025, 6:09 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
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> [quote]I also visited the car service centre next day to get
the issue diagnosed and resolved.
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Any paperwork to support this?
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Yes I have the invoice from the service centre dated 6 May 2025,
citing diagnosis and resolution of this issue.
#Post#: 73280--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL, 46: Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or
clearway), O/S Greencourt HSE, Mile End Road E1
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 26, 2025, 6:45 am
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--- Quote from: flash2005 link ---
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> [quote author=John U.K. link=topic=6507.msg73271#msg73271
date=1748257364]
> [quote]I also visited the car service centre next day to get
the issue diagnosed and resolved.
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Any paperwork to support this?
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Yes I have the invoice from the service centre dated 6 May 2025,
citing diagnosis and resolution of this issue.
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Then you need to submit reps on the basis of the problem you
have described here, including a copy of the invoice, and also
emphasise the serious safety-related aspect of the problem.
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Re: TFL, 46: Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or
clearway), O/S Greencourt HSE, Mile End Road E1
DIR By: flash2005
Date: May 26, 2025, 7:32 am
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> Then you need to submit reps on the basis of the problem you
have described here, including a copy of the invoice, and also
emphasise the serious safety-related aspect of the problem.
>
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Ok, I will submit this today
#Post#: 73289--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL, 46: Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or
clearway), O/S Greencourt HSE, Mile End Road E1
DIR By: flash2005
Date: May 26, 2025, 7:49 am
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I am writing to formally challenge the issuance of a Penalty
Charge Notice (PCN) issued by Transport for London against my
vehicle on 16th May 2025, on Mile End Road.
At the time of the alleged contravention, the vehicle had come
to a temporary stop—lasting approximately three minutes—due to
an urgent and unexpected mechanical issue. Specifically, there
was a loud and alarming noise coming from the HVAC system, which
posed a potential safety concern. As the driver, I was compelled
to stop the vehicle immediately in order to assess the situation
and ensure that it was safe to continue driving.
Please note the following key points:
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inside the vehicle throughout the brief stop. At no point did I
or any passenger exit the vehicle.
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the photographic evidence, indicating that the vehicle was
stationary only temporarily and remained in operation.
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concerns rather than an attempt to park or wait unlawfully.
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service centre the following day. A copy of the invoice from the
garage is enclosed with this appeal to demonstrate the
authenticity and seriousness of the mechanical issue.
I would like to stress that this stop was made solely for safety
reasons. Continuing to drive a vehicle emitting loud mechanical
noises could have endangered myself, my passengers, and others
on the road. The decision to pull over momentarily was both
responsible and necessary.
In light of these facts, I respectfully request that this PCN be
reviewed and cancelled. This was not a case of illegal parking
or idling, but a short, safety-driven stop to respond to an
unforeseen mechanical issue.
Thank you for your understanding and for considering this
appeal.
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Re: TFL, 46: Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or
clearway), O/S Greencourt HSE, Mile End Road E1
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 26, 2025, 1:54 pm
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Looks OK, but don't be surprised if they reject it, as they are
in thrall to the cash these PCNs generate.
Anyway, ram it up them !
#Post#: 73333--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL, 46: Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or
clearway), O/S Greencourt HSE, Mile End Road E1
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: May 26, 2025, 4:17 pm
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It would have been better to wait for direct advice from me
before submitting a representation but we are where we are,
let's see what comes back.
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Re: TFL, 46: Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or
clearway), O/S Greencourt HSE, Mile End Road E1
DIR By: flash2005
Date: June 2, 2025, 8:20 am
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> It would have been better to wait for direct advice from me
before submitting a representation but we are where we are,
let's see what comes back.
>
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I got an email today saying that the representation has been
rejected. Letter posted below. Any advice on the next steps
please ?
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Re: TFL, 46: Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or
clearway), O/S Greencourt HSE, Mile End Road E1
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 2, 2025, 11:57 am
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It would be helpful if you told us if you are the driver or not,
for statutory PCNs it's counter-productive to hide the identity
of the driver as the owner is liable no matter who was driving.
It's also unclear what exactly the purpose of stopping was in
the first place, did the driver for example switch the car off
and on again? Did they manage to fix the error before driving
off?
Another angle is the one illustrated Ayman Labib v Transport for
London (2240513624, 18 January 2025)
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I'll also drop you a PM in case you'd like me to represent you
at the tribunal.
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