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47 in a 40 mph zone in South Wales
DIR By: nova1
Date: May 21, 2025, 7:18 pm
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Alleged 47 in a 40mph zone by speed camera in South Wales advice
Hi
I'm a long time driver but relatively new to the UK. I have 25
years driving experience overseas and 1.5 years in the UK.
I've clocked around 5000miles in south Wales over the past 8
months mostly between West Wales and Cardiff.
I've never had any prior offenses and I usually drive pretty
cautiously.
I checked my mailbox today to find a notice of intended
prosecution that I have gone 47 in a 40mile zone very close to
where I live. I usually drive this route all the time but I
remember momentarily going up to 46 and then slowing down the
moment I realized. I was trying to get out of the way of another
driver who I thought was getting uncomfortably close to me.
I plan to fill this out and return it tomorrow.
As this is my first instance is it likely that I get a fine and
driving course?
My main question... Is there any point where I get to respond to
give context of what happened? Specifically that it was few
moments and not me running constantly over the limit for an
extended period of time?
Is it worth adding in just those two lines on a separate form or
do I just not get the opportunity? As I don't see this explained
anywhere on the form.
Would they know it's my first offence in the UK as well? Or do I
have to mention this somewhere?
Also the road is a 3 lane dual carriageway with a pavement
separating the opposite 3 lanes
Thanks for the advice and best regards
#Post#: 72686--------------------------------------------------
Re: 47 in a 40 mph zone in South Wales
DIR By: JRHartley
Date: May 22, 2025, 1:40 am
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You should be offered a course, as long as you haven't done one
in the last 3 years.
It will cost around £100, but there won't be any penalty points.
There is no point in giving any context, as it won't make any
difference to the outcome.
#Post#: 72688--------------------------------------------------
Re: 47 in a 40 mph zone in South Wales
DIR By: 666
Date: May 22, 2025, 1:53 am
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As above.
In any event, nothing you have told us suggests any defence or
reason for mitigation.
#Post#: 72697--------------------------------------------------
Re: 47 in a 40 mph zone in South Wales
DIR By: JustLoveCars
Date: May 22, 2025, 3:55 am
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You're in the sausage machine and will be processed routinely
unless you start sticking your head above the parapet.
It doesn't matter if you did 47mph for a second or a minute.
#Post#: 78196--------------------------------------------------
Re: 47 in a 40 mph zone in South Wales
DIR By: Mayhem007
Date: June 25, 2025, 1:24 pm
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In essence you were over the acceptable limit full stop.
Exceptional circumstances does not cut the mustard. If you had
been doing 44 mph you might possibly got away with it. There is
a tolerance, but once it is provide to you as COFP you are
pretty much screwed. Sorry you have to swallow the sweet bitter
pill and pay up, unfortunately the reasons why you committed and
you exemplary previous driving doesn't come into it. Sorry.
There is this perception and belief that you are okay if it is
10% +2 mph over any limit. However, there is this possibility of
some escape. Unfortunately, if once you are charged for 1 mph
over the limit, you are pretty much done. Unless you want to
fight the accuracy and competency of the police officer and his
equipment
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Re: 47 in a 40 mph zone in South Wales
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: June 25, 2025, 2:12 pm
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Many years ago, 10% +2mph was the effective limit - people were
only prosecuted for exceeding this threshold. IIRC at pretty
much the same time that the previous government brought in
hypothecation (the police receiving the revenue from the fixed
penalties), some bright spark realised that the guidelines
allowed for enforcement at the threshold - so driving at 10% +2
over the limit is asking for trouble, whereas 10% +1mph is
generally fine, as long as you don't slip up, or the camera
over-read by 1mph, etc.
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