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PCN Hounslow, 12R parked in residents parking place without
permit, Mayfield Avenue
DIR By: autolysic
Date: May 21, 2025, 5:20 am
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Not from Hounslow so went to look up parking on the councils
website
(
HTML https://www.hounslow.gov.uk/info/20104/parking_in_hounslow/1125/parking_on_the_street),<br
/>the only link on there is broken
(
HTML https://www.hounslow.gov.uk/info/20104/parking_in_hounslow/2632/christmas_parking_and_traffic_enforcement_schedule)
HTML https://i.imgur.com/kXwhecx.png
So I hop onto google street view and look near where I am
meeting my friend and see a side street with a controlled Zone
that runs Mon - Sat 9am - 7pm. Perfect, I'm meeting up at 7pm on
a Tuesday. If I'm early, I can pay, I can even seen the pay here
sign on the left (circled in red) but I notice the image is from
Sept 2022.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/h1Oznhf.png
Google map
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/bPQnNUUJotr4LAmc8
As I have driven in, this is the view of the entry sign:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/K8SC3s5.png
So the combo of:
1. Council website providing no info for on-street parking due
to a broken link
2. Google street view from 2022 showing Mayfield Ave being a CPZ
Residents permit parking Mon-Sat 9am-7pm
3. Seeing the "Pay Here" signs, suggesting the bays are Pay and
Display
4. Actually driving there and seeing the one entry sign visible
to me saying "Pay and Display Zone Mon-Sat 7am-7pm"
5. Arriving at 7pm on a Tuesday (Dashcam shows 17:58:53 because
it doesn't adjust to Daylight Savings, so it's actually
18:58:53)
lead me to believe, "just park up in a bay and leave before 7am"
Nope
HTML https://i.imgur.com/kSFUgKF.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/4sj7n25.jpeg
Hounslow PCN website
HTML https://hounslow.tarantoportal.com/PCN
PCN number: NJ42237177
VRN:R888XGD
I didn't actually see the PCN until I got home (over an hours
drive away) as it was hidden by that broccoli plushie (don't
ask).
So I jumped on Google streetview again and if you place yourself
right at the t-junction, there is a a newer pic available from
Aug 2024 where the left entry sign is bashed up and rotated and
the one on the right says Controlled Zone (with the residents
permit) Mon-Sat 9am-9pm Sunday 5-9pm.
I think I have a few possible outs here:
Poorly maintained and poor signage
The left hand entry sign has been twisted to the point of
reading the wrong face for nearly 3 years now (Sept 2022 street
view + pic and vid from my car)
the right hand entry sign isn't picked up by my dashcam
HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GbJNCQKyuVv1d0z7gN0ekgfVp_JQdqj5?usp=sharing
and is obscured on approach by the tree and Leyland shop sign
HTML https://i.imgur.com/TkPFy8Q.png
Parking enforcement error - Not following TSRGD Schedule 18 Part
1
HTML https://tsrgd.co.uk/pdf/tsrgd/tsrgd2016.pdf
page 543
I've had a look on the spreadsheet
HTML https://bit.ly/2ALghSS
that [member=1]cp8759[/member] has in
their READ THIS FIRST post and I think this
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qjkKYJxAHhFvrWhpwTqGwhrUfa-pD5Sv/edit<br
/>appeal might be valid in my case.
I looked up the TMO for 7 Mayfield Avenue Hounslow Traffic
Orders
HTML https://hounslow.traffweb.app/traffweb/1/TrafficOrders?markpos=521309.7388482834,178599.03212496822,6<br
/>and it states
"2022/70 MAYFIELD AVENUE
Resident Permit Holders Mon-Sat 9am-9pm and Sun 5pm-9pm Except
Christmas Day, Good Friday or a Bank Holiday
Effective from 07/11/2022 to the present day
Data correct at time of publication (20/05/2025)
Data correct at time of publication 20/05/2025 Displaying
parking active on: 21-05-2025"
Doing a search on their site for TMO 2022/70
HTML https://www.hounslow.gov.uk/site_search/results/?q=2022%2F70<br
/>looking at the most recent document March 26 20205 Deposited
Documents – Reference TMO/E003/24 Experimental ...
HTML https://www.hounslow.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/4523/experimental_electric_vehicles_only_charging_bays_-_tmoe00324.pdf<br
/>page 143/214 states "SCHEDULE 8A
In relation to a parking place referred to in this Schedule, the
expression “permitted hours”
means the period between 9.00am and 9.00pm Monday to Saturday,
and 5.00 and 9.00pm
Sunday except for Christmas Day, Good Friday and Bank Holidays.
Parking places in respect of which a vehicle may be left during
the permitted hours if it displays
a valid residents’ permit"
and page 144/214 "No. of parking place 12. Mayfield Avenue,
Chiswick, London, the west side, from a point 5 metres south of
the northern flank wall of No. 7 Mayfield Avenue to a point 2
metres south of the party wall of Nos. 1 & 3 Mayfield Avenue
Where as their sign in their own PCN evidence, does not state
those excluded days
HTML https://i.imgur.com/uiQdciq.png
Parking enforcement error - Not following Traffic Signs Manual,
Chapter 3, Regulatory Signs, 14,1,17 (page 197)
HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c78f895e5274a0ebfec719b/traffic-signs-manual-chapter-03.pdf
Which states:
14.1.17.  The end of a type (a) CPZ is indicated by
the sign to diagram 664 (S7‑2‑1, see
Figure 14-2). Where one zone ends and another commences, the
zone end sign is replaced by
the zone entry sign for the second zone. Where a road forms the
boundary between two zones,
it should be within one or the other zone, or excluded from
both; one side of the road should not
be within one zone and the other side within the other zone, as
this would result in signing that
is likely to be confusing to drivers. Where a type (a) CPZ is
adjacent to a restricted parking zone
(see section 15), the zone end sign is replaced by the
restricted zone entry sign. Likewise, the
zone end sign for the restricted parking zone is replaced by the
CPZ entry sign
Paired with this PDF
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