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#Post#: 92648--------------------------------------------------
Re: Torfaen - Code 02 - Parking or Unloading in restricted
street Market St Pontypool.
DIR By: Mr Tickle
Date: October 3, 2025, 2:17 am
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NtO received today see attached:
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#Post#: 92665--------------------------------------------------
Re: Torfaen - Code 02 - Parking or Unloading in restricted
street Market St Pontypool.
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: October 3, 2025, 4:49 am
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For convenience:
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#Post#: 92680--------------------------------------------------
Re: Torfaen - Code 02 - Parking or Unloading in restricted
street Market St Pontypool.
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: October 3, 2025, 6:53 am
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Dear Sir,
PCN ********
I refer to the above and the NTO issued on 1 October 2025.
The alleged contravention relates to a 'waiting' restriction
which the council is obliged to convey to motorists. The normal
manner is by the use of yellow lines, however, in limited and
specified circumstances the council may omit these indicators.
These are:
Restricted Parking Zones(RPZ) (as defined by Schedule 1 to the
Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 - the
Traffic Signs regulations), and
Pedestrian and Pedestrian and Cycle Zones(PZ) (as defined by
Schedule 1 to the Traffic Signs regulations).
In either case, the prescribed traffic signs include a symbol
for 'No waiting', something with which the council is fully
aware. As regards a RPZ, this symbol is mandatory and forms an
integral part of the prescribed sign whereas with a PZ the
inclusion is optional as the PZ sign itself is prescribed only
for moving traffic restrictions.
Turning to the authority's evidence, this comprises several
clear photos of my car waiting on a road without any yellow
lines, indeed the authority does not argue the contrary in their
letter dated **** which erroneously rejected my informal
representations. The photos also include a clear PZ sign.
However, as can be seen this does not carry the optional 'no
waiting' symbol and therefore as a matter of legal
interpretation does not convey a waiting restriction within the
zone.
It was irresponsible of the authority to reject my previous
representations based upon an incorrect use of the term
Restricted Parking Zone which flew in the face of its own
evidence. I sincerely hope that this error is not repeated in
the response to these representations which may only be that the
PCN is cancelled. Whether you wish to inform your colleagues
within the traffic management section that the sign needs
changing(to the form which GSV shows existed until as recently
as October 2023 ) at this point or wait until an adjudicator
allows an appeal, I leave to you.
In short, when the council changed the restriction from
Pedestrian and Cycle zone to Pedestrian Zone i.e. to ban ridden
cycles, it changed the sign but omitted to include the mandatory
'No waiting' restriction on the new PZ sign, therefore rendering
enforcement of waiting restrictions unlawful.
...some thoughts
#Post#: 93317--------------------------------------------------
Re: Torfaen - Code 02 - Parking or Unloading in restricted
street Market St Pontypool.
DIR By: Mr Tickle
Date: October 8, 2025, 2:15 am
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I Like your thoughts and have sent that reply.
Let's see how they reply.
Many thanks for this.
#Post#: 95754--------------------------------------------------
Re: Torfaen - Code 02 - Parking or Unloading in restricted
street Market St Pontypool.
DIR By: Mr Tickle
Date: October 27, 2025, 11:02 am
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I have received the Notice of rejection of representations
today.
What should be my next step please?
Thanks
#Post#: 95774--------------------------------------------------
Re: Torfaen - Code 02 - Parking or Unloading in restricted
street Market St Pontypool.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 27, 2025, 1:47 pm
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The next step is to register an appeal with the tribunal. Opt
for a telephone or online hearing.
They are still claiming it is a restricted parking zone. It just
isn't. It is only signed as a pedestrian zone which can only be
enforced as a moving traffic contravention.
I think the reason they doubling down is in 2023 it was signed
as a restricted zone. But now (or when you were there) it isn't.
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#Post#: 96196--------------------------------------------------
Re: Torfaen - Code 02 - Parking or Unloading in restricted
street Market St Pontypool.
DIR By: Mr Tickle
Date: October 30, 2025, 10:31 am
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If you register an appeal with the tribunal following their
website instructions, it does not offer the option of telephone
or online hearing?
I have completed all of the steps online; created an account,
filled in the appeal, attached the photos and the only option at
the end is to submit it? I haven't clicked the submit button
yet.
Should I phone them instead and asked for the call or online
hearing?
#Post#: 96200--------------------------------------------------
Re: Torfaen - Code 02 - Parking or Unloading in restricted
street Market St Pontypool.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 30, 2025, 10:56 am
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They do offer telephone/online hearings - maybe that option
comes up after you've lodged the appeal.
I would call and ask.
HTML https://www.trafficpenaltytribunal.gov.uk/contact-us/#contactoptions
HTML https://www.trafficpenaltytribunal.gov.uk/what-to-expect-at-a-hearing/
#Post#: 96250--------------------------------------------------
Re: Torfaen - Code 02 - Parking or Unloading in restricted
street Market St Pontypool.
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: October 30, 2025, 4:13 pm
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Just register your appeal:
Contravention did not occur;
Procedural impropriety.
#Post#: 96273--------------------------------------------------
Re: Torfaen - Code 02 - Parking or Unloading in restricted
street Market St Pontypool.
DIR By: Mr Tickle
Date: October 31, 2025, 4:01 am
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> Just register your appeal:
>
> Contravention did not occur;
> Procedural impropriety.
>
--- End Quote ---
So only put that (not a long description with pics) and then
wait for them to contact me further?
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