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       #Post#: 72352--------------------------------------------------
       School Zig Zag lines - no signs
   DIR By: TedStriker
       Date: May 20, 2025, 8:14 am
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       Hi,
       Just a quick one - if there is no sign showing times of
       operation for yellow 'keep clear' zig zag lines outside a
       school, are they enforceable? To be clear I'm not wanting to
       park inconsiderately during school times, this is an area that
       has single yellow lines combined with yellow zig zags and I'd
       like to park overnight at the weekend, which is permitted by the
       roadside signage for the single yellows (restrictions 2pm-3pm
       Mon-Fri).
       Here is the place in question
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/hLTWp8JSCLEmLbim8
       Thanks!
       #Post#: 72354--------------------------------------------------
       Re: School Zig Zag lines - no signs
   DIR By: 666
       Date: May 20, 2025, 8:29 am
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       --- Quote from: TedStriker link ---
       >
       > Hi,
       >
       > Just a quick one - if there is no sign showing times of
       operation for yellow 'keep clear' zig zag lines outside a
       school, are they enforceable? To be clear I'm not wanting to
       park inconsiderately during school times, this is an area that
       has single yellow lines combined with yellow zig zags and I'd
       like to park overnight at the weekend, which is permitted by the
       roadside signage for the single yellows (restrictions 2pm-3pm
       Mon-Fri).
       >
       > Here is the place in question
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/hLTWp8JSCLEmLbim8
       >
       > Thanks!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       AFAIK in the absence of a sign with times of operation, the
       prohibition applies 24/7.
       #Post#: 72357--------------------------------------------------
       Re: School Zig Zag lines - no signs
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: May 20, 2025, 8:32 am
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       No.
  HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/782724/traffic-signs-manual-chapter-03.pdf
       13.28.1 refers. Without an applicable upright sign the marking
       is advisory.
       #Post#: 72384--------------------------------------------------
       Re: School Zig Zag lines - no signs
   DIR By: 666
       Date: May 20, 2025, 9:31 am
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       --- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
       >
       > No.
       >
       >
  HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/782724/traffic-signs-manual-chapter-03.pdf
       >
       > 13.28.1 refers. Without an applicable upright sign the marking
       is advisory.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks HC, but the Traffic Signs Manual is also advisory!
       Can you point to the relevant legislation?
       #Post#: 72385--------------------------------------------------
       Re: School Zig Zag lines - no signs
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: May 20, 2025, 9:34 am
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  HTML https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=tsrgd+2016
       N.B. For the purposes of some random question, when the TSM says
       that the law says X, the TSM can be considered to be an
       appropriate digest.
       #Post#: 72403--------------------------------------------------
       Re: School Zig Zag lines - no signs
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: May 20, 2025, 11:03 am
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  HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/schedule/7/made
       Part 6, para. 2
       School etc entrances (diagram 1027.1)
       2.  The road marking provided for at item 10 of the sign table
       in Part 4, when not placed in conjunction with an upright sign
       which includes the symbol at item 12 of the sign table in Part 3
       of Schedule 4 (prohibiting stopping on entrance markings),
       indicates a part of the carriageway outside an entrance where
       vehicles should not stop.
       3.  Subject to paragraph 4, the road marking at item 10, when
       placed in conjunction with an upright sign which includes the
       symbol at item 12, conveys the prohibition that, subject to the
       exceptions in paragraph 5, a person driving a vehicle must not
       cause it to stop on that marking—
       (a)if the sign placed in conjunction with the marking does not
       show a time period, at any time; or
       (b)if the sign shows a time period, during that period.
       My emphasis.
       #Post#: 73211--------------------------------------------------
       Re: School Zig Zag lines - no signs
   DIR By: Pastmybest
       Date: May 25, 2025, 12:14 pm
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       Looking at the GSV the school zig zag is defunct being located
       outside a care home See the non enforceable sign affixed to the
       fence near the gate
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