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#Post#: 72290--------------------------------------------------
UKPC - Parking on a bay for registered users only - Sunbeam
Road, Acton NW10 6JP
DIR By: bertie21980
Date: May 19, 2025, 3:54 pm
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Hello everyone. I got another parking ticket from another
private operator, UKPC. I was parked on a bay on Sunbeam Road,
which is a private road. Apparently, this bay is for registered
users only and I was parked here for 14 minutes and 5 seconds.
Here is the PCN...
HTML https://i.ibb.co/7dfGqXGs/pcn-sunbean-rd-north-acton-front-edit.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/xtkMNDMx
HTML https://i.ibb.co/fV5KyqmH/pcn-sunbean-rd-north-acton-back.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/4wGDXKBp
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/z65pwyhVT1qMePLD6
Here is the link of the street view above. I parked on the bay
on the right, just where that black car is.
I was parked here as I was doing a delivery for a company called
Ateliers London to pick up a sofa. I was given an incorrect
address of 17 - 21 sunbeam road which is why I was parked there
for so long as I couldn't find the company. The actual address
is on the same road but slightly further up (the building at the
end with the white triangular roof).
Will I still be able to appeal with my original delivery notes?
I understand this is a private company so I assume they will
reject my appeals regardless of any loading notes. Any help
would be appreciated.
#Post#: 72406--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKPC - Parking on a bay for registered users only - Sunbeam
Road, Acton NW10 6JP
DIR By: b789
Date: May 20, 2025, 11:19 am
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Please confirm that no Notice to Driver (NtD) was affixed to the
vehicle.
The Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not fully compliant with all the
requirements of PoFA to be able to hold the known Keeper of the
vehicle liable for the charge. The unknown (to UKPC) driver is
always liable but, as there is no legal obligation on the known
Keeper to identify the unknown driver, you should decline to do
so.
What evidence have they provided to show that the vehicle was
actually parked for 14 minutes? The NtK does not specify a
period of parking as required under PoFA paragraph 9(2)(a).
There are other failures but this is the most significant one.
One other anomaly, if this was an NtK issued under paragraph 9
of PoFA, is how they managed to obtain the Keepers data from the
DVLA on the same day as the alleged contravention. A KADOE
request can only be processed no less than overnight. The NtK
says that the alleged contravention occurred on 23/04/2025 and
that the notice was issued on the same date.
You have until Friday 23rd May to appeal and I suggest that you
do so with the following, ONLY as the Keeper. Any reference to
the driver must be n the third person. No "I did this or that",
only " the driver did this or that":
--- Quote ---
> I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking
charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I
will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your
client landowner.
>
> As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL
the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper
of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even
substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no
admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions
can be drawn. UKPC has relied on contract law allegations of
breach against the driver only.
>
> The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
UKPC have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a
complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
--- End Quote ---
This will be rejected, as would any appeal, no matter what was
pleaded. However, it will get you a POPLA code which we can deal
with later.
The DVLA does not allow real-time access to registered keeper
data. It is simply not possible for them to have:
[indent]• Identified the vehicle
• Applied for and received keeper data from the DVLA
• Processed the information
• Printed and issued the NtK,[/indent]
all on the same day as the alleged contravention.
Download the DVLA MIS1065 form here:
HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/62692f63d3bf7f0e7d5b3dc6/make-a-subject-access-request-to-dvla-form-mis1065_270422.pdf
You only need to complete Section 1, Section 3 (optional), and
the final declaration.
For the "Tell us what specific information you need about your
vehicles" section put the following:
--- Quote ---
> I am requesting specific information about a KADOE request
made by UK Parking Control Ltd (UKPC), a BPA Approved Operator,
regarding my vehicle.
>
> The alleged parking contravention occurred on 23 April 2025 at
13:20, and the Notice to Keeper (NtK) I received is dated the
same day: 23 April 2025. The NtK states that UKPC had "checked
the vehicle details with the DVLA" before issuing the notice.
>
> This raises a serious concern because, under the KADOE
contract and BPA rules, private parking companies are not
permitted real-time access to DVLA data. It should not be
technically possible for a parking company to:
>
> • submit a KADOE request,
> • receive a response from the DVLA,
> • process the data,
> • and issue a postal Notice to Keeper,
>
> all on the same day as the alleged event.
>
> I therefore request the following information:
>
> 1. The exact date and time UKPC submitted the KADOE request
for my data in relation to this event.
> 2. The exact date and time the DVLA responded to that request
and released my keeper data.
> 3. The method by which the request was made (e.g., electronic
interface, manual, batch, etc.).
> 4. A copy of the request and response logs (with redactions if
required).
>
> This request is made under the Data Protection Act 2018 and is
necessary to verify the lawfulness and timeline of personal data
processing by UKPC.
--- End Quote ---
SECTION 2 – Leave this section blank (This is only for driver
record enquiries, not needed here.)
SECTION 3 – Optional contact details. These help DVLA contact
you if needed, so give them your phone number and email address.
Include a copy of the NtK and send them as pdf attachments in an
email to subjectaccess.requests@dvla.gov.uk and also CC in
yourself.
#Post#: 72463--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKPC - Parking on a bay for registered users only - Sunbeam
Road, Acton NW10 6JP
DIR By: bertie21980
Date: May 20, 2025, 3:57 pm
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OK I see. Thank you for the advice. I will appeal this right
away. Not surprised they will reject it but I will be expecting
it nevertheless. I never thought about how they managed to find
out that my vehicle was parked for 14 minutes so now I will keep
that in mind.
They have already sent me a final reminder through the post
today. I only received the PCN through the post roughly 2 weeks
ago
#Post#: 77285--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKPC - Parking on a bay for registered users only - Sunbeam
Road, Acton NW10 6JP
DIR By: bertie21980
Date: June 19, 2025, 7:33 pm
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Hi guys, I have appeal as suggested previously stating that I
refused to accept the PCN and they have replied stating that I
should mention the driver...
HTML https://i.ibb.co/hRRpQyqJ/ukpc-appeals-letter-department-edit.png
HTML https://ibb.co/bggpwPfM
A few weeks ago, I also did a subject data request as well...
HTML https://i.ibb.co/tTCfL7Bs/subject-data-request-edit.png
HTML https://ibb.co/TxhXWVc8
Anyway, I'm guessing I should ignore the request of stating who
the driver is?
#Post#: 77298--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKPC - Parking on a bay for registered users only - Sunbeam
Road, Acton NW10 6JP
DIR By: jfollows
Date: June 20, 2025, 2:41 am
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Correct.
It’s a common tactic trying to get you to name the driver, next
will come a rejection “after careful consideration” and a POPLA
code.
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