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Re: Ticket issues at 7.52am sunday at Milton Keynes travelodge
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 5, 2023, 3:06 pm
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The council photos are inconclusive at best, as they show no
relation to where the signs are compared to the car (the sign on
the other side of the road doesn't count):
HTML https://i.imgur.com/H2vLbKv.jpg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/ICWDD6Q.jpg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/LnZmAwP.jpg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/eCNQzhv.jpg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/YKn3vxZ.jpg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/QbCCAWe.jpg
At what time exactly did you get to the car? Did you have much
luggage?
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Re: Ticket issues at 7.52am sunday at Milton Keynes travelodge
DIR By: bebu
Date: October 5, 2023, 3:50 pm
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thanks for the updates
We got to the hotel the night before, it was dark, when we got
there.
We had about two 20kg suitcases and a hand luggage and we got to
the car around 8am and left for heathrow shortly afterwards
So is what they issued legal or can be challenged ?
many thanks
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Re: Ticket issues at 7.52am sunday at Milton Keynes travelodge
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 5, 2023, 5:55 pm
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It is possible for a PCN to be legally issued but for that same
PCN to still be open to challenge. At what time exactly, to the
best of your recollection, did you start making your way to the
car?
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Re: Ticket issues at 7.52am sunday at Milton Keynes travelodge
DIR By: bebu
Date: October 5, 2023, 6:20 pm
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I got to my car before 8am. Probably 5 or 10 mins after the
ticket was issued
I have a WhatsApp message on my phone sent to my cousin. Who was
meant to meet us at the airport saying "We are off to terminal
5"
Message was sent 8.19am and my phone is 10 mins fast. As I
intentionally set it so.
Secondly I sent the message at 8.19am (or 8.09am ) when our
luggage was in the car and heading off
Thirdly, the car was at the side of the hotel. And I drove to
the front. And carried all 3 luggages down, before we set off.
So I know it was before 8am
My dad's flight was 11am and I know we got there 2 hours before
take off. We missed our way into terminal 5. Before finding the
boarding gate and after checking in. I sent the message at
9.16am (9.26am on my phone) to my cousin. Seen in the attachment
below
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Re: Ticket issues at 7.52am sunday at Milton Keynes travelodge
DIR By: bebu
Date: October 5, 2023, 6:29 pm
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See attachment
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Re: Ticket issues at 7.52am sunday at Milton Keynes travelodge
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 5, 2023, 6:58 pm
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--- Quote from: bebu link ---
>
> I got to my car before 8am. Probably 5 or 10 mins after the
ticket was issued
>
--- End Quote ---
What happened after the ticket was issued isn't really
important, I'm trying to work out the sequence of events prior
to the PCN being issued. The PCN was issued at 7:52, did you see
the enforcement officer? Did the officer see you? From what you
say it sounds like you got to the car between 7:52 and 8 am?
You haven't answered my original question: when exactly did you
leave the hotel room to start making your way to the car?
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Re: Ticket issues at 7.52am sunday at Milton Keynes travelodge
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 5, 2023, 6:59 pm
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I have to say this one looks difficult because the restriction
to permit holders applies on all days of the week between 07.00
and 08.30, when one can pay to park.
NOt only that, the sign with the restrictions is right by the
OPs car, if you look at the first photo, it is to the left,
although only partly visible, but I can't see an adjudicator
saying the sign wasn't visible.
Basically, the OP didn't look before parking-up and going to bed
exhausted. OK, wew've all done it, but unfortunately exhaustion
is not grounds for a valid appeal. Sorry to be so negative but I
see no outcome other than pay the discount. Quite why Milton
Keynes Council have this rather odd restriction, only they know,
It applies Monday to Sunday; why ?
#Post#: 6853--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ticket issues at 7.52am sunday at Milton Keynes travelodge
DIR By: bebu
Date: October 6, 2023, 5:39 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
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> [quote author=bebu link=topic=638.msg6813#msg6813
date=1696548031]
> I got to my car before 8am. Probably 5 or 10 mins after the
ticket was issued
>
--- End Quote ---
What happened after the ticket was issued isn't really
important, I'm trying to work out the sequence of events prior
to the PCN being issued. The PCN was issued at 7:52, did you see
the enforcement officer? Did the officer see you? From what you
say it sounds like you got to the car between 7:52 and 8 am?
You haven't answered my original question: when exactly did you
leave the hotel room to start making your way to the car?
[/quote]
I must have left the hotel room at 7.50-ish, as its less than 2
minutes walk to my car and on getting to the car, I saw the
ticket but did not see any enforcement officer. I then drove
around the complex. I know for sure it was before 8am
I find it strange to enforce 24 hours parking even on sunday. As
My uncle lives in paddington central london and its free to park
weekends
So what should my appeal be based upon ?
#Post#: 6861--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ticket issues at 7.52am sunday at Milton Keynes travelodge
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 6, 2023, 7:43 am
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Nothing strange about enforcing 7 days a week, we see it all the
time, indeed 24x7 is very common. Reason for it is it makes so
much money for the councils, the traffic management aspect is
about 5%
#Post#: 6893--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ticket issues at 7.52am sunday at Milton Keynes travelodge
DIR By: bebu
Date: October 6, 2023, 1:19 pm
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So what should my appeal be based upon ?
Many thanks
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