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       #Post#: 6584--------------------------------------------------
       Charge Certificate - Bromley, code 12 parked without valid
       permit, broken down 
   DIR By: Kaigb20
       Date: October 3, 2023, 3:53 am
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       Hi all, please can I have some advice on the options I have now
       other than pay the £110? I challenged the PCN, received a Notice
       of Rejection of Challenge, waited for the Notice to Owner but
       missed the deadline as I was waiting for the mechanic to send me
       a copy of the invoice, received the Charge Certificate, I sent a
       letter, received a response last week stating as the Charge
       Certificate had been sent I need to pay £110. Images of PCN and
       correspondence here
  HTML https://flic.kr/ps/4392s5
       I've had 2 people advise in other forums that it can revert back
       to the NtO stage and to not pay the £110. Is that correct? Is
       that for certain or only a possibility?
       #Post#: 6587--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Charge Certificate - Bromley, code 12 parked without valid
       permit, broken down 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: October 3, 2023, 5:21 am
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       Yes, they are correct. As you didn't receive the Notice to Owner
       you can submit a Witness Statement once the council register the
       debt at TEC. They will then send out an Order for Recovery. From
       now on, you must be proactive, and from the end of the period
       for payment of the CC, ring-up TEC about every 7-10 days quoting
       the PCN Number to find out if it's registered or not. You don't
       need the paper OfR in your hand in order to submit your WS.  You
       can download the form from TEC. (Traffic Enforcement Centre).
       TEC will revert the matter to the NtO stage at which point you
       can submit reps or pay. Note that if you submit the WS before
       the debt is registered, it will be rejected.
       #Post#: 6604--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Charge Certificate - Bromley, code 12 parked without valid
       permit, broken down 
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: October 3, 2023, 7:03 am
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       If you received the notice to owner and simply missed the
       deadline because you were waiting for an invoice from the
       garage, then no there is nothing you can do apart from paying.
       You can't say you didn't receive the notice to owner if you did,
       as lying about this would be a criminal offence and a contempt
       of court, and it could land you in prison. The maximum sentence
       for this is 2 years imprisonment.
       #Post#: 6633--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Charge Certificate - Bromley, code 12 parked without valid
       permit, broken down 
   DIR By: Kaigb20
       Date: October 3, 2023, 10:53 am
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       Can this forum be used as evidence in court?
       #Post#: 6678--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Charge Certificate - Bromley, code 12 parked without valid
       permit, broken down 
   DIR By: spaceman
       Date: October 4, 2023, 6:48 am
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       --- Quote from: Kaigb20 link ---
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       > Can this forum be used as evidence in court?
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       --- End Quote ---
       Yes.
       #Post#: 6679--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Charge Certificate - Bromley, code 12 parked without valid
       permit, broken down 
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: October 4, 2023, 7:01 am
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       On Pepipoo you posted: I challenged the PCN, received a Notice
       of Rejection of Challenge, waited for the Notice to Owner which
       I didn't receive,
       Hence why the advice was that you could revert the process. I
       suggest you amend that thread so that advice will align i.e. you
       have no procedural recourse if you received a NTO to which you
       did not respond within the period allowed AND the CC was served
       after that period had expired.
       As regards 'Can this forum be used as evidence in court?' this
       implies that you would be prepared to make a false statement of
       truth in a witness statement. On your own head be it and you
       should not expect support for such action from any reputable
       forum.
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