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Parking pcn Enfield
DIR By: sugarray
Date: May 16, 2025, 5:18 am
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Good day!
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Vky80CroYy93HNCScPlZrWz8c3Asi8F/view?usp=sharing
I received this pcn but wasn't aware there would be a problem
here. Other cars park here and there are no signs. The road
marking are worn and thought they did not apply. Its a raised
area but really people have been parking here for years. ANy
thoughts?
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Re: Parking pcn Enfield
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 16, 2025, 5:36 am
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Think this is a contravention for footway parking.
But the double yellow line shouldn't be there - should be around
the kerb by the carriageway.
The status of that paved area is the key.
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HTML https://i.ibb.co/dsLNdfF8/en1.jpg
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Re: Parking pcn Enfield
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 16, 2025, 5:36 am
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Please read this and update your thread as necessary. A GSV link
to the location is always useful as well.
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Re: Parking pcn Enfield
DIR By: sugarray
Date: May 16, 2025, 8:04 am
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HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/uggGYKtYrujaLkin6
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Re: Parking pcn Enfield
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 16, 2025, 1:31 pm
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OK, so having had a look on your GSV link, and also at earlier
views, and seeing no cars parked off-the carriageway on there,
please tell us where you were parked, giving the exact GSV view
plus description.
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Re: Parking pcn Enfield
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: May 17, 2025, 3:12 am
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I don't think the pcn can stick as double yellows are not
painted on the footpath only on the carriageway. Think you may
have a lucky escape with this. Advice for all motorists, if you
don't want a pcn take absolutely no risks, park where the
situation is clear.
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Re: Parking pcn Enfield
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: May 17, 2025, 3:56 am
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I parked my car adjacent to double yellow lines as can be seen
in the CEO's photos.
The Traffic Signs etc. Regulations and the Highway Code
prescribe and describe where DYL must be placed, in this case:
[On a road] 'Along the edge of the carriageway'.
As the contravention grounds in this case are predicated on my
vehicle being parked in a road 'other than on a carriageway' the
authority have a problem and one which should not be visited on
motorists.
Either the location is or is not a carriageway.
If not, then the traffic authority is wrong for causing DYL to
be placed there contrary to law. But if it is then the
contravention could and did not occur because I was parked on a
carriageway.
In either case, I hope authority will take the prudent course
and cancel the PCN. What messages you might care to send to
officers in the traffic authority I leave to you.
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Re: Parking pcn Enfield
DIR By: sugarray
Date: May 17, 2025, 8:28 am
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HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/pksSaLwuXrpSK7bj7
try this. it should be the exact spot and there is a white car
parked there if you go to sat view. cheers
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Re: Parking pcn Enfield
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 17, 2025, 1:05 pm
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Looking at this view rather than the CEO shots does lean in the
direction of it being a road rather than a footway feature as
there are no obvious crossing points to it.
The counterfactual is what if a code 01 had been given.
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Re: Parking pcn Enfield
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: May 18, 2025, 7:18 am
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The only place they can put DYL that can then be legally
enforceable is at the edge of a carriageway these follow round
from what is obviously a road so must be just that so parked in
a place other than on a carriageway cannot stand
you might as well accept that an 01 parked in a restricted
street when prohibited would apply that is not what you are
charged with so the CEO reason to believe is flawed
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