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PCN - failing to comply with no entry restriction
DIR By: mark_1
Date: May 15, 2025, 1:51 pm
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Hi everyone,
Few weeks back local council installed no entry sign on one of
the roads (always been 2 way, now made 1 way) and i didnt notice
it as the signs are installed very high and smaller size than
normal no entry sign. No entry sign positioned above my
windscreen, above 7.5 feet.
Do i have a grounds for an appeal du to the height of the sign
and size of the actual sign?
Thank you
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Re: PCN - failing to comply with no entry restriction
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: May 15, 2025, 2:11 pm
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As usual, for meaningful advice please to have a read of
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
and post up here
all sides of the PCN (only redact yr name & address - leave all
else in),
and a GSV link to the location.
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> Few weeks back local council installed no entry sign on one of
the roads
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Do you know the date the change came into effect?
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Re: PCN - failing to comply with no entry restriction
DIR By: mark_1
Date: May 15, 2025, 4:02 pm
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Thank you for the update and feedback John U.K.
Please see original PCN attached.
GSV -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/Kk1qA3G5JFFkYFJm8
(dated Oct 2024
so no installed signs). Dont have exact data of sign
installation, but i visited that place about a month ago and it
had no "no entry" signs yet. They have also installed camera
against that street (no cameras before).
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Re: PCN - failing to comply with no entry restriction
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 15, 2025, 4:50 pm
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Are there No Entry signs on both sides, and are they illuminated
?
It does seem really stupid that they have put these new signs up
barring entry, but the parking zone signs with times are still
there !
Are there any advance warning signs in either direction ?
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Re: PCN - failing to comply with no entry restriction
DIR By: mark_1
Date: May 16, 2025, 2:34 am
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> Are there No Entry signs on both sides, and are they
illuminated ?
>
> It does seem really stupid that they have put these new signs
up barring entry, but the parking zone signs with times are
still there !
>
> Are there any advance warning signs in either direction ?
>
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No other warning signs from any directions and signs are not
illuminated but they are close to a lamp post. There is no sign
from other side that this is now a one-way road. Speed marking
are still on both sides.
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Re: PCN - failing to comply with no entry restriction
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 16, 2025, 5:34 am
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You should submit reps on the basis that this new restriction is
badly signed, with no advance warnings and all th e existing
street furniture left in position, incl. carriageway markings.
In addition, the new signs are not illuminated for such an
important restriction.
You'll get the usual Fob-Off. Post their response when you get
it. For a case like this you have to be prepared to stand your
ground, forego the discount, and take them all the way to London
Tribunals.
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Re: PCN - failing to comply with no entry restriction
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 16, 2025, 6:14 am
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Not sure you'll have much joy here.A possibility is whether you
are committed to the entry as the signs are set back and maybe
not that visible from where you came from.
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Re: PCN - failing to comply with no entry restriction
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 16, 2025, 7:11 am
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Yeah, certainly not a slam dunk win when one views the video.
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Re: PCN - failing to comply with no entry restriction
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: May 16, 2025, 7:13 am
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Edited. Worth checking their website as I seem to remember there
are wrong grounds on it.
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Re: PCN - failing to comply with no entry restriction
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: May 17, 2025, 3:15 am
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Red no entry signs are red so they do not get missed. Signs can
be up to 4m high. I wouldn't fight this.
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