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Hertsmere PCN Code 83 - Registration plate change
DIR By: Artichoke
Date: October 2, 2023, 11:58 am
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Just before part exchanging my car in July I put my personalised
number K7 NDK on retention, and swapped the plates over to
previous registration VE67 DZR as directed by DVLA.
Unfortunately, my wife didn't realise and used the stored number
in her paybyphone app when parking the car in a Council car
park.
Received a ticket as the warden (understandably) couldn't see
that parking was paid for. However, app payment was
unquestionably for this vehicle, so I emailed the council as
below assuming it would be straightforward to get the charge
cancelled.
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My Black Mazda was parked in Kemp Place car park today, and
payment of £3.34 was made using the PayByPhone App (see
attached) for the period 11:07 to 14:07.
As I am part exchanging my car at the weekend, I put the
personalised plate K7 NDK on retention using the DVLA online
service, and changed the registration plates to the replacement
number VE67 DZR the day before yesterday. Please see
confirmation email from DVLA instructing the change.
Unfortunately, my wife used the normal ‘K7 NDK’ registration
stored in the app when paying for parking for the Mazda today.
As it is clear that the payment for parking covers the observed
parking time of 11:34 to 11:36, and that the payment was
obviously for this same vehicle, please cancel this PCN
accordingly.
... and I also added this the following day:-
Just thought it’s worth clarifying that the registration ‘K7
NDK’ has not been assigned to any other vehicle, as demonstrated
by the DVLA screenshot attached.
There is no question that the £3.34 payment was for parking of
this black Mazda.
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Amazed to receive a 'notice of rejection' last Friday despite
the overwhelming evidence showing that we paid.
I would be grateful for any thoughts on how I should proceed
with this. Am I right in saying my maximum downside is £50 if I
fight it all the way if necessary?
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Re: Hertsmere PCN Code 83 - Registration plate change
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: October 2, 2023, 1:51 pm
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Using ibb means you can scroll down and paste the BBCode in your
post making it easier for others to read, so
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Re: Hertsmere PCN Code 83 - Registration plate change
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 2, 2023, 5:46 pm
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The maximum liability if you appeal and lose is £50, as long as
no deadlines are missed the penalty will no go above that.
I have ordered the parking places order for this car park.
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Re: Hertsmere PCN Code 83 - Registration plate change
DIR By: Artichoke
Date: October 26, 2023, 3:50 am
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Hi cp8759
Have now received NTO as below. Any thoughts as to how I should
handle this would be gratefully appreciated.
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Re: Hertsmere PCN Code 83 - Registration plate change
DIR By: DancingDad
Date: October 26, 2023, 4:15 am
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I would repeat the informal.
I would however add an apology for the error and a request that
they apply their discretion to cancel the PCN, there was no
attempt to avoid payment and payment was made, unfortunately not
to the correct reg number.
These sort of PCNs pee me orfe.
While it was issued correctly, can't fault the CEO, there is
strong mitigation and to me, councils ought to pay more heed to
that.
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Re: Hertsmere PCN Code 83 - Registration plate change
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 29, 2023, 7:42 am
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I would suggest you hold off making representations until
Thursday, this should see the discount being reoffered if they
reject, but should buy you the most amount of time while we wait
for the parking places order to come back. As for what to say, I
agree with DancingDad just reiterate the previous points.
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Re: Hertsmere PCN Code 83 - Registration plate change
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 7, 2023, 1:08 pm
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Here is The Hertsmere Borough Council (Kemp Place Off-Street
Parking Places) Order 2020
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Did you make a representation?
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Re: Hertsmere PCN Code 83 - Registration plate change
DIR By: Artichoke
Date: November 14, 2023, 8:45 am
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If I'm understanding correctly I have 28 days from 20th October
which would be this Thursday 16th November.
Do you have any further suggestions before I proceed?
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Re: Hertsmere PCN Code 83 - Registration plate change
DIR By: DancingDad
Date: November 14, 2023, 10:11 am
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28 days startng with date of service.
Which is on 2nd working day after posting so posted on 20th
(friday) deemed served on 24th (tuesday) so drop dead date is
21st Nov.
Don't leave it till last minute
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Re: Hertsmere PCN Code 83 - Registration plate change
DIR By: Artichoke
Date: November 14, 2023, 11:25 am
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Thanks, I'll send tomorrow.
Given that the PCN was issued correctly, I guess I tick the
'Other Grounds' box?
And do online?
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