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#Post#: 71435--------------------------------------------------
Speeding 60mph in average speed check 50mph
DIR By: royal tezza
Date: May 14, 2025, 5:46 am
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Hi everyone, hope you are well and very grateful for any advice
on my case.
Many of you will be aware of the roadworks on the A3/M25 around
Wisley that have been dragging on for a number of years and
probably several more.
I was driving with my pregnant wife who needed the bathroom
through the "roadworks" and got caught allegedly doing 60mph in
a 50mph zone.this was recorded over the course of one minute
between the two cameras.
I drive through this section every weekend and the cameras are
never operating. This alleged offence happened midweek during
rush hour so I guess they have them on at that time.
I already have 3 points on my licence with those due to expire
end of next year. I'm just getting a bit paranoid about stacking
them up with a baby on the way. I also feel (but recognise the
letter of the law) it's a very minor offence to get 3 points and
a £100 penalty for.
I don't seem to have any option to appeal in writing strangely,
the letter just speaks of paying up or going to court - can that
be right?
It's with Surrey Police. The notice number is 0453051056561220.
Happy to post the attachments or however is best to provide the
evidence.
Thank you and best wishes
#Post#: 71438--------------------------------------------------
Re: Speeding 60mph in average speed check 50mph
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: May 14, 2025, 5:57 am
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--- Quote from: royal tezza link ---
> I don't seem to have any option to appeal in writing
strangely, the letter just speaks of paying up or going to court
- can that be right?
>
--- End Quote ---
Yes.
What is it you want help with?
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Re: Speeding 60mph in average speed check 50mph
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: May 14, 2025, 6:02 am
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> I drive through this section every weekend and the cameras are
never operating.
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How do you know that?
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> I don't seem to have any option to appeal in writing
strangely, the letter just speaks of paying up or going to court
- can that be right?
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Yes it is right. It is not like a parking offence. It is a
criminal matter and you cannot “appeal” a speeding allegation
made by the police. If you don’t want to accept their
out-of-court offer they will prosecute you. They will produce
evidence to show that you exceeded the speed limit and, if you
plead not guilty, you will have to counter that. The cost of
failure is high. If you are convicted following a trial you will
be lucky to see any change from £1,000.
What stage is this at? Have you named yourself as the driver and
subsequently received a “Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty”
(£100 and three points)?
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Re: Speeding 60mph in average speed check 50mph
DIR By: JustLoveCars
Date: May 14, 2025, 6:22 am
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--- Quote from: royal tezza link ---
>
> I also feel (but recognise the letter of the law) it's a very
minor offence to get 3 points and a £100 penalty for.
>
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Enforcement begins at 57mph. It's a minor offence but you won't
escape it.
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Re: Speeding 60mph in average speed check 50mph
DIR By: royal tezza
Date: May 14, 2025, 7:56 am
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Many thanks all.
I am indeed in receipt of a conditional offer having confirmed I
was the driver.
I naively thought I may have a route to appeal short of going
through the courts, but with a baby on the way and a house move
I have no desire to do that so I better accept it.
It's a sickener as it is in my view a very minor offence with
mitigating circumstances but I could live with having 6 points.
I guess when you hear of drivers going through the courts it's
when they are about to lose their licence as it's the only
context in which it's worth it.
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Re: Speeding 60mph in average speed check 50mph
DIR By: 666
Date: May 14, 2025, 8:29 am
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--- Quote from: royal tezza link ---
>
> Many thanks all.
>
> I am indeed in receipt of a conditional offer having confirmed
I was the driver.
>
> I naively thought I may have a route to appeal short of going
through the courts, but with a baby on the way and a house move
I have no desire to do that so I better accept it.
>
> It's a sickener as it is in my view a very minor offence with
mitigating circumstances but I could live with having 6 points.
I guess when you hear of drivers going through the courts it's
when they are about to lose their licence as it's the only
context in which it's worth it.
>
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The whole point of a fixed penalty offer is to provide anyone
accepting his guilt with a simple solution, avoiding court, and
thus saving all parties considerable costs. It therefore does
not cater for arguments or appeals.
Whether it was a "very minor" infraction is clearly a matter of
opinion. You were 20% over the limit, and the courts' guidelines
suggest a fine of half a weeks earnings.
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Re: Speeding 60mph in average speed check 50mph
DIR By: The Slithy Tove
Date: May 14, 2025, 11:03 am
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--- Quote from: royal tezza link ---
>
> Hi everyone, hope you are well and very grateful for any
advice on my case.
>
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How do you know that? Do you regularly speed through that
section? Be warned, since last weekend's rejig of the layout,
there's now a stretch of 30mph limit.
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