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       Edinburgh Council. 102 section 54 no part of car is within 50cm
       of edge . Comely Bank Grove EH41AZ, Edinburgh
   DIR By: bluebincar
       Date: May 13, 2025, 12:47 pm
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       [member=1]cp8759[/member] (I did read the sticky! This is a
       great forum, many thanks for all your work)
       Hi all,
       Firstly, you do a great job. Many thanks in advance.
       Every Monday night I arrive home late (10:30pm) and there is
       often no spaces to park on the street I live on (comely bank
       grove, EH41AZ) or streets nearby. I can drive around for ages
       and not find anywhere. I am a permit holder (N3). On the 12/5/25
       I was forced to park in front of the bin hub as I had no other
       options (except double yellow lines). I leave for work at 08:30
       on 13th May and unfortunately got a ticket at 08:17. The road is
       a quiet residential street and very wide so it was the most
       reasonable place I could pick. There are no bin collections
       before I leave at 08:30 on a Tuesday morning - basically I am
       not an idiot - I try and play fairly in life. The PCN was left
       on my windshield.
       Obviously I know not to park there, but before I pay the fine,
       is there any technicalities that I can hold them to account for
       in appeal? I will roll over if I have to but thought I'd check
       here first.
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       Streetview:
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       (note
       image is old, bin hub expanded since as per my pic)
       #Post#: 71374--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Edinburgh Council. 102 section 54 no part of car is within
       50cm of edge . Comely Bank Grove EH41AZ, Edinburgh
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: May 13, 2025, 1:14 pm
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       You need to post the council's photos pl.
       #Post#: 71375--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Edinburgh Council. 102 section 54 no part of car is within
       50cm of edge . Comely Bank Grove EH41AZ, Edinburgh
   DIR By: bluebincar
       Date: May 13, 2025, 1:18 pm
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       --- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
       >
       > You need to post the council's photos pl.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't have any, the PCN doesn't indicate where I can see this.
       I tried the council website and get this:
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       #Post#: 71382--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Edinburgh Council. 102 section 54 no part of car is within
       50cm of edge . Comely Bank Grove EH41AZ, Edinburgh
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: May 13, 2025, 2:09 pm
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       > I don't have any, the PCN doesn't indicate where I can see
       this. I tried the council website
       --- End Quote ---
       Some councils take 24 hrs to update website - try again
       tomorrow.
       #Post#: 71384--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Edinburgh Council. 102 section 54 no part of car is within
       50cm of edge . Comely Bank Grove EH41AZ, Edinburgh
   DIR By: bluebincar
       Date: May 13, 2025, 2:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
       >
       > [quote]I don't have any, the PCN doesn't indicate where I can
       see this. I tried the council website
       --- End Quote ---
       Some councils take 24 hrs to update website - try again
       tomorrow.
       [/quote]
       Ok thank you. Will report back with photo. This delay eats into
       my appeal window, 24 hours is reasonable. A week wouldn't be.
       I'll check tomorrow.
       #Post#: 71388--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Edinburgh Council. 102 section 54 no part of car is within
       50cm of edge . Comely Bank Grove EH41AZ, Edinburgh
   DIR By: Daim456
       Date: May 13, 2025, 2:54 pm
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       It sounds like you have been "double parked" and it has been
       banned in 2019 under Transport (Scotland) Act 2019 along with
       parking on pavement and dropped kerbs.
       To confirm we would see the Council photos first.
       You have two chances to make representations against the Council
       (28 days x 2)
       We will look again tomorrow to see if the photos have appeared
       on the website.
       #Post#: 71389--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Edinburgh Council. 102 section 54 no part of car is within
       50cm of edge . Comely Bank Grove EH41AZ, Edinburgh
   DIR By: bluebincar
       Date: May 13, 2025, 3:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: Daim456 link ---
       >
       > It sounds like you have been "double parked" and it has been
       banned in 2019 under Transport (Scotland) Act 2019 along with
       parking on pavement and dropped kerbs.
       >
       > To confirm we would see the Council photos first.
       >
       > You have two chances to make representations against the
       Council (28 days x 2)
       >
       > We will look again tomorrow to see if the photos have appeared
       on the website.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thank you I had a look at the legislation and this seems to be
       the case. The loss of parking spaces is ridiculous with the
       installation of bin hubs everywhere. Oftentimes permit holders
       can't actually find a spot to park. This is of course immaterial
       to the PCN. I'll check in tomorrow.
       #Post#: 71511--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Edinburgh Council. 102 section 54 no part of car is within
       50cm of edge . Comely Bank Grove EH41AZ, Edinburgh
   DIR By: bluebincar
       Date: May 14, 2025, 12:07 pm
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       Hi all, images of the offence shown below. Don't think there is
       anything I can do but pay within 14 days. Unless I am missing
       something?
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       thanks
       #Post#: 71559--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Edinburgh Council. 102 section 54 no part of car is within
       50cm of edge . Comely Bank Grove EH41AZ, Edinburgh
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: May 14, 2025, 4:25 pm
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       Looking at the photos, I'm sorry to say it, but you look
       "bang-to-rights". Councils issue permits in the full knowledge
       that there just isn't a space for every permit they issue, and
       in places like Edinburgh, it is very unlikely there ever will
       be. If you reside in the centre of a big city this is one of the
       issues you will come up with if you own a car. It is "musical
       chairs" basically.
       Having said you look 'bang-to-rights' it is always worth
       submitting something to try to get them to cancel the PCN.
       Mostly they don't but it does mean they have to do at least some
       work for the money. All I can suggest is to submit a
       non-confrontational representation explaining the circumstances,
       and ask them to cancel the PCN on this ocasion.
       #Post#: 71565--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Edinburgh Council. 102 section 54 no part of car is within
       50cm of edge . Comely Bank Grove EH41AZ, Edinburgh
   DIR By: bluebincar
       Date: May 14, 2025, 4:31 pm
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       > Looking at the photos, I'm sorry to say it, but you look
       "bang-to-rights". Councils issue permits in the full knowledge
       that there just isn't a space for every permit they issue, and
       in places like Edinburgh, it is very unlikely there ever will
       be. If you reside in the centre of a big city this is one of the
       issues you will come up with if you own a car. It is "musical
       chairs" basically.
       >
       > Having said you look 'bang-to-rights' it is always worth
       submitting something to try to get them to cancel the PCN.
       Mostly they don't but it does mean they have to do at least some
       work for the money. All I can suggest is to submit a
       non-confrontational representation explaining the circumstances,
       and ask them to cancel the PCN on this ocasion.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thank you very much. This is what I thought would be the outcome
       but it is always best to check with the forum. I will try and
       plead my case! I guess I can have a bit of fun with it.
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