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Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: JustLoveCars
Date: May 13, 2025, 10:54 am
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> Yes i sent my license and address details back in the same
brown envelope it came in as thats what it said to do with the
address written on the back of it, I sent it by first class
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Do you still have the paperwork stating this?
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Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: lauris898
Date: May 13, 2025, 11:44 am
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> [quote author=lauris898 link=topic=6301.msg71331#msg71331
date=1747151127]
> Yes i sent my license and address details back in the same
brown envelope it came in as thats what it said to do with the
address written on the back of it, I sent it by first class
>
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Do you still have the paperwork stating this?
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Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: May 13, 2025, 12:04 pm
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> I am trying to contact them as I’ve seen people ask for it to
be resent and therefore avoid all the court stuff
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If you have received an SJPN you won't avoid all the court
stuff. That has already begun and the SJPN is your notification
of that.
Are you sure that the SJPN mentions only "Failing to provide
driver's details"?
I am surprised that the police sent you a "Notice of Intended
Prosecution" (NIP) saying they plan to prosecute you under
Section 172(3). I'm even more surprised that they say they are
doing so in accordance with the requirements of Section 1 of the
Road Traffic Offenders' Act as no NIP is required for Section
172 offences.
#Post#: 71353--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: May 13, 2025, 12:07 pm
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Makes about as much sense as posting that "NIP" in response to a
question regarding whether or not the OP still has a letter
saying something completely different.
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Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: JustLoveCars
Date: May 13, 2025, 12:11 pm
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...and you've not redacted your personal details
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Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: lauris898
Date: May 13, 2025, 12:28 pm
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--- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
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> [quote]I am trying to contact them as I’ve seen people ask for
it to be resent and therefore avoid all the court stuff
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If you have received an SJPN you won't avoid all the court
stuff. That has already begun and the SJPN is your notification
of that.
Are you sure that the SJPN mentions only "Failing to provide
driver's details"?
I am surprised that the police sent you a "Notice of Intended
Prosecution" (NIP) saying they plan to prosecute you under
Section 172(3). I'm even more surprised that they say they are
doing so in accordance with the requirements of Section 1 of the
Road Traffic Offenders' Act as no NIP is required for Section
172 offences.
[/quote]
Yes this is the only letter I received, what would ur advice be
onto what to do next, I have a lawyer call coming up to guide me
as well
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Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: May 14, 2025, 6:49 am
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So you have not received a "Single Justice Procedure Notice"
(SJPN) yet then?
If not, you could try contacting the police to see if they will
send you another "request for driver's details". You've left us
to guess when the offence is alleged to have occurred (and o
guess what that offence is - I assumed it was speeding)but I'm
guessing it was more than three months ago, so I doubt that they
will.
If they won't, I suggest you wait until you receive your SJPN to
see what you are charged with.
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Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: lauris898
Date: May 14, 2025, 10:12 am
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Hi
I am awaiting a reply from the officer who issued it,
Am sorry if it doesnt make sense but I will clear it up a bit
more.
I got a letter 2 weeks ago ( the one in chat previously ) saying
I am being prosecuted for failing to provide driver details from
the previous letter they sent me in march.
The officers reply to my email when I questioned the offence was
“poor driving standards” so something minor am guessing.
You said to wait to see what am charged with but isnt that
letter that I posted in the group showing am charged with
failing to provide only? Guessing they had no evidence for the
poor driving standards
Thanks for ur reply
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Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: May 14, 2025, 10:37 am
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> You said to wait to see what am charged with but isnt that
letter that I posted in the group showing am charged with
failing to provide only?
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The letter they sent you in March would have contained the
intended charge you would face for the driving offence. The
usual procedure when matters go to court in circumstances like
yours is to lay charges for the original driving offence (which
sounds like careless driving) and the FtP offence. You want to
avoid a conviction for FtP if at all possible as it has nasty
consequences (more nasty than low-level careless driving).
As I said earlier, I don't know why the police sent you the
letter you posted on here as there is no requirement to warn you
that prosecution for the FtP offence is being considered.
There is a way to approach this if you face both charges, but
until you know that you do (which will be revealed when you
receive your SJPN) there is no point in going down that road
yet.
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> Guessing they had no evidence for the poor driving standards
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If they had no evidence they would not have sent you the
original letter warning you that you might be prosecuted and
asking you to provide the driver's details. They have to suspect
that you are guilty of an offence. They don't just send out the
requests hoping you don't reply so that they can prosecute you
for failing to do so.
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Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: May 14, 2025, 11:34 am
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So, after drip feeding us, you have told us that you have
variously received one letter and one SJPN letter and have
posted the only letter that you have received - which is clearly
not an SJPN.
As you are clearly either incapable of or unwilling to provide a
straight answer to simple and relevant questions, I'm closing
this thread.
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