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#Post#: 71103--------------------------------------------------
Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: lauris898
Date: May 12, 2025, 1:31 pm
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I am contacting regarding a letter I received about failing to
give information of the driver.
I had received a letter which was asking if I was the driver at
the time about 2 months ago and I had replied 2 weeks later and
had sent the letter back to the address on the back as stated
first class from the post office in Scarborough. I don’t know if
it wasn’t meant to go there or not but I am sure it was.
What would the next sensible option to proceed be, do I contact
the police themselves and ask kindly for a 2nd letter and for it
to be tracked this time?
I am actually frustrated as to what to do
#Post#: 71104--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: May 12, 2025, 1:37 pm
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It's hard to give advice on how you should respond to "a letter"
that you have seen but we haven't, without any information as to
what that letter says, other than that it is "about failing to
give information of the driver".
#Post#: 71107--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: JustLoveCars
Date: May 12, 2025, 1:47 pm
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--- Quote from: lauris898 link ---
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> I had replied 2 weeks later and had sent the letter back to
the address on the back as stated first class from the post
office in Scarborough.
>
--- End Quote ---
What information did you provide when replying? They usually
provide a correctly addressed envelope for responses (just add
stamp).
#Post#: 71233--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: lauris898
Date: May 13, 2025, 6:44 am
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Yes it was the s172 letter, I had filled it in and sent 2 weeks
after
What am trying to get across is that I had sent it back first
class, as tracked is not a legal requirement and had received
another letter stating that they havent got it and am due to a
court a summons.
I had returned it to the address on the back as it states to
send it back in the same envelope it came in
I had emailed the officer from that letter and he just said the
same thing from the letter that am due a court appearance.
I had no reminder or anything just that nip letter
Is my best option now to contact the traffic bureau ?
I have contacted a lawyer aswell as to the best next steps but
need all the help possible
#Post#: 71238--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: 666
Date: May 13, 2025, 7:04 am
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OP, what is the "letter" you have now received? Is it a Single
Justice Procedure Notice"? If it is, there is no point in
contacting the police, as it's out of their hands. Please
confirm, so that we can provide proper advice.
#Post#: 71240--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: JustLoveCars
Date: May 13, 2025, 7:10 am
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--- Quote from: lauris898 link ---
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> I had returned it to the address on the back as it states to
send it back in the same envelope it came in
>
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Something doesn't sound right here - that is most unusual. As I
said, they usually provided an addressed envelope to use but
without a stamp.
#Post#: 71243--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: May 13, 2025, 7:20 am
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Whatever you have sent and wherever you sent it, the police say
they did not receive it. They are most unlikely to budge from
that and their next step will be o prosecute you, so you need to
be prepared for that rather than try to get to the bottom of it.
When you receive your court papers, it will probably be a
“Single Justice Procedure Notice” (SJPN) rather than a summons.
Hopefully it will list two charges: speeding and failing to
provide driver’s details (FtP). You will be asked to enter pleas
to those charges. You will then have a decision to make. You can
either:
(1) Plead Not Guilty to both charges and then offer to plead
guilty to the speeding charge if the FtP charge is dropped. Or
(2) You can plead Not Guilty to both charges and defend the FtP
charge on the basis that you responded as required. Or
(3) You can simply plead guilty to the FtP charge.
The speeding charge cannot succeed without you pleading guilty
as the police have no evidence that you were driving.
The usual advice in your circumstances is option (1). You can
make your offer when you respond to the SJPN. In some areas that
offer is deal with under the SJ procedure, other areas may
require you to attend court.
If you intend to defend the FtP charge you will have to convince
the court “on the balance of probabilities” (i.e. that they are
more sure than not) that you did respond. Without any evidence
of posting your response that may be difficult.
You haven't said but I assume you were the driver at the time
the police are asking you about.
#Post#: 71327--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: lauris898
Date: May 13, 2025, 10:35 am
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Thanks for ur reply
Yes I was the driver at the time
I have only received one SJPN letter stating that I am being
prosecuted for failing to identify driver
But the alleged offence is not on here.
I will provide a photo later
My only problem is i haven’t got any proof currently.
I have made effort to contact the police about it which I hope
shows me trying.
#Post#: 71329--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: lauris898
Date: May 13, 2025, 10:41 am
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--- Quote from: 666 link ---
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> OP, what is the "letter" you have now received? Is it a Single
Justice Procedure Notice"? If it is, there is no point in
contacting the police, as it's out of their hands. Please
confirm, so that we can provide proper advice.
>
>
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Yes its that letter
I am trying to contact them as I’ve seen people ask for it to be
resent and therefore avoid all the court stuff
What would your advice be?
#Post#: 71331--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failing to provide driver information
DIR By: lauris898
Date: May 13, 2025, 10:45 am
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--- Quote from: JustLoveCars link ---
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> [quote author=lauris898 link=topic=6301.msg71103#msg71103
date=1747074707]
> I had replied 2 weeks later and had sent the letter back to
the address on the back as stated first class from the post
office in Scarborough.
>
--- End Quote ---
What information did you provide when replying? They usually
provide a correctly addressed envelope for responses (just add
stamp).
[/quote]
Yes i sent my license and address details back in the same brown
envelope it came in as thats what it said to do with the address
written on the back of it, I sent it by first class
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