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#Post#: 7046--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Bus lane PCN
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 8, 2023, 5:18 pm
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Draft representation:
[indent]
Dear Reading Borough Council,
I challenge the PCN on the grounds that it is a defective
document, because the council claims that if the penalty charge
is not paid or challenged then a charge certificate "will" be
issued, while under the regulations it can only state that a
charge certificate "may" be issued. I refer you to the easons
given by the Traffic Penalty Tribunal in the decisions at LINK1,
LINK2, LINK3 and LINK4.
It follows that in light of that procedural impropriety, the PCN
must be cancelled.
Yours faithfully,
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I will PM you the links to put in the representation, they will
redirect to Anthony Hall v Kent County Council (with Tunbridge
Wells BC) (KU-00042-1810, 07 December 2018)
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1EoqML5pVDJePtRNZ11St3yHfKbSK8IuZ,<br
/>Claire Jones v Cheshire West and Chester Council
(AW00056-1811,
19 December 2018)
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1AdoQ7mC9-5qqfkLxsfrifY889pbT7cp0,<br
/>David Chapman v Portsmouth City Council (PO00086-1811, 09
January 2019)
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1diUBnlDzjbOdvKif0pUA3y_GxnIMY0L6<br
/>and Ammar Abdul Hadi v Coventry City Council (CV00067-1902, 05
April 2019)
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1gPi42KZHLS7iMTbzgM1YIafEg_4jN_gs<br
/>but if you give them the links I'll PM you, we can use the
click
count to confirm whether they've looked at them or not
(obviously do not click on the links I PM you as we want the
click count to remain at zero). If they don't click on them, we
can then prove they've failed to consider all of the evidence.
If they say in the rejection that they've considered all the
evidence, we've got them for lying as well.
#Post#: 7059--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Bus lane PCN
DIR By: bobthesod
Date: October 9, 2023, 3:52 am
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thanks
Just a quick question
Do i copy and paste the links to the bottom of the appeal?
I dont want to make an error
#Post#: 7062--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Bus lane PCN
DIR By: DancingDad
Date: October 9, 2023, 4:22 am
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Personally I would include that the document is flawed in that
it fails to correctly specify the mandatory time periods for
payments and challenge
#Post#: 7067--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Bus lane PCN
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: October 9, 2023, 4:58 am
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--- Quote from: bobthesod link ---
>
> thanks
>
> Just a quick question
>
> Do i copy and paste the links to the bottom of the appeal?
> I dont want to make an error
>
--- End Quote ---
CP has shown you in post Reply#20 precisely where to put the
unopened links - replace 'LINK 1' by link 1 and so on.
By the way, 'tis not an appeal, it's a represenation - appeal is
the next stage if/when Reading reject.
#Post#: 7529--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Bus lane PCN
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 16, 2023, 7:43 am
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Reply from the council:
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Camera Type: LaneWatch Unattended Enforcement Camera LW Mk2 /
MAV 52
Manufacturer: Yunex Traffic (Previously named Siemens & Zenco)
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#Post#: 7530--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Bus lane PCN
DIR By: bobthesod
Date: October 16, 2023, 8:21 am
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CP
Thanks for the update.
Letter has gone off today with proof of posting just as written
with the four links copy and pasted
in the body
Will keep you advised
Thanks for the assistance so far. really appreciated
#Post#: 7631--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Bus lane PCN
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 17, 2023, 12:15 pm
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--- Quote from: bobthesod link ---
>
> Letter has gone off today with proof of posting just as
written with the four links copy and pasted
> in the body
>
--- End Quote ---
[member=680]bobthesod[/member] Letter? You can't click a link in
a letter, you were meant to send the representations online via
the council website?!??
I suggest you resubmit now via the website and get a screenshot
of the confirmation page.
#Post#: 7650--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Bus lane PCN
DIR By: bobthesod
Date: October 17, 2023, 3:21 pm
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Ooops!!
Have sent email to Reading with the links inserted as per your
letter
They did ask for supporting documentation and there was a box
to add files
Should the links also have gone in there as well as a belt and
braces move?
#Post#: 7667--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Bus lane PCN
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 17, 2023, 6:18 pm
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--- Quote from: bobthesod link ---
>
> Should the links also have gone in there as well as a belt
and braces move?
>
--- End Quote ---
No, as long as they're there they can open them.
Did you get a screenshot of the confirmation page?
#Post#: 7672--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Bus lane PCN
DIR By: bobthesod
Date: October 18, 2023, 2:27 am
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Yes
Screenshot saved..
On the upside they should have it twice post and email!
Now to wait
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