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#Post#: 71036--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Barnet Section 53J - Failing to comply
with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 12, 2025, 8:24 am
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This isn't right.
You need to answer my question - were you aware of the
restriction and its timing beforehand.
#Post#: 71063--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Barnet Section 53J - Failing to comply
with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (
DIR By: natasha1819
Date: May 12, 2025, 9:57 am
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Hi Stamfordman
I had replied to you earlier that I was aware of the timing and
the restriction but I cannot recollect if my car clock showed
4:00pm or 3:59pm.
Can you please tell me why the letter is wrong.
Thanks
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Re: London Borough of Barnet Section 53J - Failing to comply
with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (
DIR By: natasha1819
Date: May 19, 2025, 11:13 am
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Hi Stamfordman
Thank you for your help and sorry if I did something to irritate
you...
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Re: London Borough of Barnet Section 53J - Failing to comply
with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 19, 2025, 11:53 am
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I just forgot.
You need to focus on the trivial timing. The advance sign is
irrelevant as you knew about the restriction.
Is the below true?
Dear Barnet,
I'm challenging the PCN because I believe I entered the
restriction after its end time.
According to your video I was only about 40 seconds before but
my car clock only shows times in minutes and I thought I was OK.
I believe this very small time falls into triviality - I've had
a look at similar cases on the London Tribunals register and
note that adjudicators take the view that less than a minute and
lack of confidence in the accuracy of camera times is a minimal
or 'de minimis' situation and no contravention occurred.
I trust you will see this case in the same way and look forward
to your early confirmation of cancellation of this PCN.
With thanks.
#Post#: 73088--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Barnet Section 53J - Failing to comply
with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (
DIR By: natasha1819
Date: May 24, 2025, 10:27 am
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Hi Stamfordman
I submitted a response on my previous letter with emphasis on
the minute difference, however I did keep the signage problem as
it has recently been changed by the Council.
Thank you once again for all your time with this matter...
Hopefully I can return the favour one day...
#Post#: 75127--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Barnet Section 53J - Failing to comply
with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (
DIR By: natasha1819
Date: June 6, 2025, 8:47 am
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HI Stamfordman
Hope you are keeping well. I received a letter from the council
today cancelling the PCN. Thank you for all your help in this
matter.
Natasha
#Post#: 75129--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Barnet Section 53J - Failing to comply
with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: June 6, 2025, 8:50 am
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Please upload a copy with your name and address hidden in acse
it says anything of use for another pcn.
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Re: London Borough of Barnet Section 53J - Failing to comply
with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (
DIR By: natasha1819
Date: June 8, 2025, 2:41 pm
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Please find attached
[attachment deleted by admin]
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Re: London Borough of Barnet Section 53J - Failing to comply
with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: June 8, 2025, 2:48 pm
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Thank you, that is really useful. The council have been known to
refuse similar challenges and force the motorist to the
tribunal.
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Re: London Borough of Barnet Section 53J - Failing to comply
with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 8, 2025, 3:12 pm
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Yes it is useful and they picked up on my timing wording and
presumably the reference to other cases succeeding. I think they
are less confident about camera timings than other situations
where de minimis can be argued, such as bus lanes and box
junctions where the tribunal can't often use mitigation.
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