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YBJ PCN on Cranbrook Rd, Ilford
DIR By: zeezee
Date: May 6, 2025, 5:43 pm
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Hi all,
My father got a PCN going into a YBJ and wanted to see if there
was an opportunity to see if there is any aspect of the ticket
that I can appeal.
He told me that as he was driving into the space, he gave way to
the taxi in front (a taxi) that went before him into a space,
and then he felt trapped, even though he could have reversed
back.
Is he bang to rights on this?
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Re: YBJ PCN on Cranbrook Rd, Ilford
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 6, 2025, 6:08 pm
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Unfortunately, their video shows, (0.03) that before your
father entered the YBJ, the taxi had already moved forward to
turn left. Your father therefore moved into the box without the
space to exit, which the taxi had taken. Basically, he should
have waited outside the box until the taxi had completed its
manoevre. This would then have shown his exit was blocked. Yes,
I know decisions have to be made in split-seconds, but that's
motoring, I'm afraid.
This may not be the end of the story, because there could be a
'technical' appeal based on council mismanagement of the
enforcement process, so wait a bit to see if any such appeal
argument is suggested. However, don't miss the deadlines stated
in the PCN, (discount period, and period to pay or appeal)
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Re: YBJ PCN on Cranbrook Rd, Ilford
DIR By: zeezee
Date: May 8, 2025, 4:38 pm
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Thank you for your response. I've drafted a letter on my
father's behalf. Would it be okay to send?
Dear Redbridge Parking Services,
I am writing to formally appeal against the Penalty Charge
Notice issued to me for entering a yellow box junction at
[Location] on [Date].
I would like to sincerely apologise for this mistake. I am 80
years old and registered as a Blue Badge holder due to ongoing
health and mobility issues. On the day in question, I was doing
my best to navigate through a busy junction, and it was not my
intention to stop within the yellow box. Unfortunately, the
traffic conditions changed unexpectedly, and I found myself
briefly stationary within the markings.
I fully understand the rules around yellow box junctions and
deeply regret the error. I try very hard to drive carefully and
responsibly, especially given my age and physical condition. I
believe this was a genuine mistake made under pressure, and not
a deliberate disregard for the regulations.
I would also like to mention that I am on a limited pension and
genuinely cannot afford to pay the charge without significant
hardship. I am simply trying to remain independent and manage
essential travel as best as I can.
Given the circumstances – including my age, disability status,
and the unintentional nature of the incident – I respectfully
ask that you consider exercising discretion and cancelling this
PCN.
Thank you for your time and understanding. I would be very
grateful for your compassion in this matter.
Yours sincerely,
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Re: YBJ PCN on Cranbrook Rd, Ilford
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 8, 2025, 5:36 pm
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Yes, I would send it, but don't be hopeful of a good result. The
hardest hearts in Great Britain are found in council parking and
traffic enforcement departments. Why ? Because the council keep
all the penalty money paid to them. Hardly an unbiased system,
is it ?
Post their response here when you get it. I do hope they give
way, as I, myself, will be 79 in July !
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Re: YBJ PCN on Cranbrook Rd, Ilford
DIR By: zeezee
Date: May 8, 2025, 5:58 pm
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Wow - amazing, you must be doing something right!
I'll keep you all posted - I'm not holding my breath either...
It's funny though, My dad got help from Ivan in this forum
regarding another ticket that we won and then also asked for
expenses. We didn't hear back from the council, so going to the
ombudsman.
Maybe we can offset the expenses from this ticket - looooool
Thank you.
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Re: YBJ PCN on Cranbrook Rd, Ilford
DIR By: zeezee
Date: June 3, 2025, 3:34 pm
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So the council rejected the appeal, as expected.
In your opinion(s), have there been any mistakes in the letter
they have sent?
Or is it best to pay the £80 now?
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Re: YBJ PCN on Cranbrook Rd, Ilford
DIR By: MrChips
Date: June 3, 2025, 4:52 pm
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You might be able to argue the location started on the PCN is
far too vague. Cranbrook Road is about 2.5 miles long with at
least 3 box junctions along it. The recipient ought to be able
to tell from from PCN the particulars of the offence they are
being penalised for.
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