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#Post#: 70277--------------------------------------------------
Parkingeye PCN – No Permit – Wasabi Sushi &
Bento""
DIR By: beedmo
Date: May 6, 2025, 12:05 pm
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Hello,
I have, today (06.05.25), recived a PCN dated 02.05.2 from
parkingeye regarding the driver of the vehicle which I am the
registered keeper of, being parked without a permit.
The driver did this a further two times. If there is no way to
get out of the fine, I would be greatly appriciative of any
advice in regards to potentially having to pay only one fine
should a further two fines come in. (A total of £300 or £180 if
paid in 14 days).
As it is somewhere the driver goes frequently, I will get them
to get some photos of the car park enterance and potentially get
dashcam footage that, hopefully, show the signs are not clear
enough on entry to the car park.
The driver is Autistic and was stressed about this being their
first few days starting at a new place of employment and being
late due to not being able to find parking if this could be used
as a mitigating factor
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TIA
#Post#: 70331--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parkingeye PCN – No Permit – Wasabi Sushi &
Bento""
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: May 6, 2025, 5:31 pm
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Being stressed about a new job is unlikely to provide a useful
avenue of defence at any stage of the process, but your mention
of said job had raised a question - does the driver work at
Wasabi Sushi & Bento? If so, a good first port of call would be
to speak to the management there to see if they will intervene.
#Post#: 70407--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parkingeye PCN – No Permit – Wasabi Sushi &
Bento""
DIR By: beedmo
Date: May 7, 2025, 8:42 am
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
>
> Being stressed about a new job is unlikely to provide a useful
avenue of defence at any stage of the process, but your mention
of said job had raised a question - does the driver work at
Wasabi Sushi & Bento? If so, a good first port of call would be
to speak to the management there to see if they will intervene.
>
--- End Quote ---
Unfortunatly not. That would be too easy.
The driver works on the same industrial estate. They were not
made aware of additional parking on site for the first three
days of his employment. They parked there at their interview and
never recived a ticket. They have spoken to people at their work
and have been told site management of Wasabi will not intervene.
#Post#: 70408--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parkingeye PCN – No Permit – Wasabi Sushi &
Bento""
DIR By: beedmo
Date: May 7, 2025, 8:43 am
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The driver drove in from the left, meaning the sinage is not
pointing to someone as they drive into the car park.
Does this give me a case?
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#Post#: 71033--------------------------------------------------
3x Parkingeye – No Permit – Wasabi Sushi & Bento NW10
DIR By: beedmo
Date: May 12, 2025, 8:12 am
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Hi All
I, as the registered keeper of the vehicle, have been issued 3
PCNS for 3 days of alleged contraventions by parkingeye. As you
can imagine £180 or £300 is quite a sum of money to be presented
with in the space of a few days.
The tickets and evidence pointing to the lack of signage are
located at the bottom of the post. For context, The driver
drives into the car park from right to left - meaning the sign
is facing away from the driver! (The writing on the tickets is
to remind me one day prior to appeal to give me as much time as
possible for the others)
Any opinions on how sucessful my appeal is likely to be based on
past expirence would be greatly weclomed.
Below is my the appeal i have created for the first one as a
result of some ChatGPT work.
--- Quote ---
>
> To Whom It May Concern,
>
> I am writing to formally appeal the Parking Charge Notice
issued by ParkingEye Ltd, reference number (Ref #), on the
grounds of inadequate and non-compliant entrance signage at the
site in question.
>
> I am the registered keeper of the vehicle in question. I wish
to make it clear that I am not admitting to being the driver at
the time of the alleged contravention, nor am I obligated to
identify the driver under Schedule 4 of the Protection of
Freedoms Act 2012 unless the notice fully complies with the
strict conditions set out in that legislation.
>
> According to the British Parking Association (BPA) Code of
Practice – Section 19.2 and Appendix B, entrance signage must
be:
>
>
>
- Clear and prominent
>
- Positioned to face oncoming vehicles
>
- Visible and legible without requiring drivers to stop
>
>
> On the date of the alleged contravention, the signage at the
entrance was not facing the direction of oncoming traffic,
making it impossible to read upon entry. This violates the BPA
requirement that drivers must be able to see and understand the
terms and conditions upon entering the site.
>
> To support this, I have included:
>
>
- A photograph taken today, showing that the entrance sign is
still incorrectly positioned and not facing approaching
vehicles.
>
- Dashcam footage from the date of the alleged contravention,
clearly showing the entrance signage was not visible or legible.
> Please note that the file size of the footage exceeds the
allowable upload limit for this appeal platform. However, I will
gladly provide the video footage upon request via email, file
transfer, or physical media if necessary.
>
>
> Due to the poor positioning of the entrance sign, the driver
was not made aware that they were entering private land governed
by specific parking terms, and therefore no contract could have
been formed.
>
> I respectfully request that this Parking Charge Notice be
cancelled. Should you decide not to uphold my appeal, please
provide the following:
>
> I respectfully request that this Parking Charge Notice be
cancelled. Should you decide not to uphold my appeal, please
provide the following:
>
>
- Evidence of the entrance signage at the time of entry,
including photographs showing its orientation relative to
approaching vehicles.
>
>
- A site map showing the exact positioning of the signage.
>
> Confirmation that the signage complied with BPA Code of
Practice requirements at the time of the alleged contravention.
>
> Please consider this a formal appeal. I request that all
enforcement activity is paused while the appeal is under review.
>
--- End Quote ---
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#Post#: 72400--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parkingeye PCN – No Permit – Wasabi Sushi &
Bento""
DIR By: beedmo
Date: May 20, 2025, 10:49 am
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I have now been sent a letter containing this
--- Quote ---
>
> Dear Sir / Madam,
>
> Thank you for your correspondence in relation to the Parking
Charge incurred on 28 April
> 2025 at 15:52, at Wasabi Sushi & Bento, London NW10 7FW car
park.
> We are writing to advise you that your recent appeal has been
referred for further
> information.
>
> You have stated that you were not the driver of the vehicle at
the date and time of the
> breach of the terms and conditions of the car park, but you
have not indicated who was.
>
> You have already been notified that under section 9(2)(b) of
schedule 4 of the Protection
> of Freedoms Act 2012 that the driver of the motor vehicle is
required to pay this parking
> charge in full. As we do not know the driver’s name or current
postal address, if you were
> not the driver at the time, you should tell us the full name
and the current postal
> address of the driver.
>
> You are warned that if, after 29 days from the Date of Issue,
the parking charge has not
> been paid in full and we do not know both the name and current
address of the driver, we
> have the right to recover any unpaid part of the parking
charge from you, the registered
> keeper. This warning is given to you under paragraph 9(2)(f)
of schedule 4 of the
> Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 and is subject to our
complying with the applicable
> conditions under schedule 4 of that Act.
>
> Please note, if you have made or wish to make an appeal on
behalf of the driver, and you
> do not provide the full name and current postal address of the
driver, Parkingeye will be
> obliged to deal with the representations made in your name.
>
> Parkingeye have placed this charge on hold for 28 days to
enable you to provide the
> evidence requested. If this information is not provided within
28 days, the appeal may well
> be rejected and a POPLA code provided.
>
--- End Quote ---
I’m thinking they want me to provide the name of the driver
hoping the driver will simply pay. Hopefully I’ve rattled them
regarding the signage because they haven’t responded to any of
my points regarding their signage.
I note how they say I have told them I was not the driver. This
isn’t the case. I simply said that I was “not admitting to being
the driver”.
Can anyone advise on the next steps? I don’t want to identify
the driver in case they attempt to disregard my points about
signage and continue to try and collect the penalty.
TIA
#Post#: 72405--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parkingeye PCN – No Permit – Wasabi Sushi &
Bento""
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: May 20, 2025, 11:14 am
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This is a standard response they send to everyone who appeals as
the keeper without nominating a driver. I'd just ignore it and
wait for a proper appeal response.
#Post#: 77753--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parkingeye PCN – No Permit – Wasabi Sushi &
Bento""
DIR By: beedmo
Date: June 23, 2025, 10:18 am
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Hello people,
They have said my appeal has been unsuccessful, even with
evidence in first appeal the signage isn’t compliant with BPA
code.
Any advice would be appreciated on next steps.
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#Post#: 77792--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parkingeye PCN – No Permit – Wasabi Sushi &
Bento""
DIR By: ixxy
Date: June 23, 2025, 2:50 pm
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Not really surprising, it wasn't a strong appeal reason
especially considering there's a sign in the photo above, right
in front of you as you drive in as well as the one at an angle
by the entrance. Parking Eye signage is usually OK and often
used on here to highlight deficiencies in the signage of other
companies.
#Post#: 77795--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parkingeye PCN – No Permit – Wasabi Sushi &
Bento""
DIR By: beedmo
Date: June 23, 2025, 3:01 pm
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There is a sign at an angle, you’re right. At an angle that no
person entering the industrial estate would see. The sign is
pointing the opposite direction to the entrance of the
industrial estate drivers would enter through and the road leads
onto a dead end. I wouldn’t call that sufficient signage
personally
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