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#Post#: 70202--------------------------------------------------
TFL PCN - entering and stopping in a box junction - Homerton
High St
DIR By: schmuel
Date: May 6, 2025, 6:28 am
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Hello all
Please see this link to a pdf related to the above PCN:
HTML https://jumpshare.com/v/CGjz4ZTASKwufGNuc0J6
Short bit of background - this was a postal PCN which I never
received. It was sent while we were in the process of moving and
rennovating, and for whatever reason never actually made it into
my hands. I received the Order for Recovery and subsequently
filed a statutory declaration stating that I had not received
the PCN. The charge was subsequently reduced to the orignal £80.
I am now expecting a copy of the original PCN to turn up in the
post and will upload here when I receive it, however I thought
worth posting the PCN details now anyway as members will be able
to review the evidence on the TFL website.
I believe there are some procedural issues with TFL PCNs at the
moment so would welcome any advice on possible options for
challenge.
Many thanks!
Sam
#Post#: 70212--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - entering and stopping in a box junction - Homerton
High St
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 6, 2025, 7:43 am
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You need to ask for the video for these yellow box
contraventions - TFL still sends it on DVD.
HTML https://i.ibb.co/G4V3G7vN/image.png
#Post#: 70233--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - entering and stopping in a box junction - Homerton
High St
DIR By: schmuel
Date: May 6, 2025, 9:21 am
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Ok thanks Stamfordman, I'll do that
#Post#: 80465--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - entering and stopping in a box junction - Homerton
High St
DIR By: schmuel
Date: July 10, 2025, 9:22 am
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Hello again,
Finally found someone with a DVD player ::) - amazed that TFL
insist on using this tech, couldn't even access the file at any
of the libraries in Hackney as none of them use DVDs any more.
Anyway - link to the vid is here -
HTML https://streamable.com/6pkqlr.
It expires in two days but I can
upload again if needed. Case is still on hold according to the
TFL website.
The car (HK18 VVP) enters the junction at around 2mins 40secs.
Thanks all
#Post#: 80479--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - entering and stopping in a box junction - Homerton
High St
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 10, 2025, 10:12 am
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Looks petty as you mostly cleared the box. See what others say
but worth having a go IMO, as also much of the contravention is
hidden by a vehicle that is far more in contravention...
#Post#: 80519--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - entering and stopping in a box junction - Homerton
High St
DIR By: MrChips
Date: July 10, 2025, 2:13 pm
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I'm really struggling from the camera angle to deduce how much
space there was to the vehicle in front of you. You weren't in
the box by much so if there was a metre or more, you had the
option to move forward and clear it completely.
#Post#: 80555--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - entering and stopping in a box junction - Homerton
High St
DIR By: schmuel
Date: July 11, 2025, 4:41 am
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Thanks both - the rear passenger wheel is just about on the edge
of the box and the other wheel is obscured. If I'd taken the
corner slightly more sharply I think that wheel would have
missed the box. So I agree it's petty, but is that an argument
that tends to hold any weight with TFL..?
MrChips, can't recall how much space there was in front of me. I
suspect I was aware of the yellow box so probably tried to go
fairly close behind the white van. There seems to be quote a lot
of space in front of the van though, not sure why they stopped
where they did (although admit is a bit difficult to tell)
#Post#: 80624--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - entering and stopping in a box junction - Homerton
High St
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 11, 2025, 11:48 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> You need to ask for the video for these yellow box
contraventions - TFL still sends it on DVD.
>
--- End Quote ---
[member=2249]stamfordman[/member] please do not ask people to
order the CCTV while the discount is on offer, doing so is
prejudicial.
#Post#: 80688--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - entering and stopping in a box junction - Homerton
High St
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 12, 2025, 6:08 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=6217.msg70212#msg70212
date=1746535393]
> You need to ask for the video for these yellow box
contraventions - TFL still sends it on DVD.
>
--- End Quote ---
[member=2249]stamfordman[/member] please do not ask people to
order the CCTV while the discount is on offer, doing so is
prejudicial.
[/quote]
Too cryptic for me - you'll need to explain that.
#Post#: 80696--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - entering and stopping in a box junction - Homerton
High St
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 12, 2025, 7:51 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> [quote author=cp8759 link=topic=6217.msg80624#msg80624
date=1752252494]
> [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=6217.msg70212#msg70212
date=1746535393]
> You need to ask for the video for these yellow box
contraventions - TFL still sends it on DVD.
>
--- End Quote ---
[member=2249]stamfordman[/member] please do not ask people to
order the CCTV while the discount is on offer, doing so is
prejudicial.
[/quote]
Too cryptic for me - you'll need to explain that.
[/quote]
Yes but not in public, I'll PM you.
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