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       #Post#: 69781--------------------------------------------------
       PCN for parking 7 minutes before CPZ allowed (Scotland)
   DIR By: mcllsti
       Date: May 2, 2025, 1:22 pm
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       Hey folks,
       Looking for a touch of advice on this one. Pulled up at 9:20 and
       thought nothing of it since parking was allowed within 10
       minutes. I then come back later and it looks like I got a
       parking ticket at 9:23.
       Location: South Lanarkshire, Glasgow
       Reason: parking/loading in a Controlled Parking Zone out with
       the alloted time
       Looking around I am sure there must be some ability to appeal
       this on some grace period or how close it was to the allowed
       parking time. I am just unsure how I can word this.
       I also noticed the lines are fairly faded here as well which I
       could contribute to it.
       Any suggestions would help alot folks!
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       #Post#: 69796--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN for parking 7 minutes before CPZ allowed (Scotland)
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: May 2, 2025, 6:30 pm
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       We need much more information, than just a few photos. Please
       read this and update your thread accordingly : -
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       Please also post a GSV link to the location, and tell us exactly
       where you parked
       #Post#: 69799--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN for parking 7 minutes before CPZ allowed (Scotland)
   DIR By: mcllsti
       Date: May 2, 2025, 7:24 pm
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       > We need much more information, than just a few photos. Please
       read this and update your thread accordingly : -
       >
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       >
       > Please also post a GSV link to the location, and tell us
       exactly where you parked
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Apologies, I am slapping myself for missing that somehow.
       I will abandon this topic and when I return home will go post a
       new one that adhere to the guidelines
       #Post#: 69800--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN for parking 7 minutes before CPZ allowed (Scotland)
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: May 2, 2025, 7:41 pm
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       No need, just update this thread; it's what everybody else does.
       #Post#: 69984--------------------------------------------------
       (PCN) South Lanarkshire, parked in a restricted street, Stonelaw
       Road, Rutherglen, Parking Before Allowed Time, 7 Minute
   DIR By: mcllsti
       Date: May 4, 2025, 2:51 pm
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       > No need, just update this thread; it's what everybody else
       does.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That makes sense! Cheers!
       Here is updated info:
       (PCN) South Lanarkshire, parked in a restricted street, Stonelaw
       Road, Rutherglen, Parking Before Allowed Time, 7 Minutes Outside
       Of Allowed Time
       Date of Notice: 02/05/25
       Date Of Contravention: 02/05/25
       Council: South Lanarkshire
       Time Contravention Occurred: 09:22 BST
       Vehicle Reg: SD70 JZL
       Make: Ford
       Color: Grey
       Observed In: Stonelaw Road, Rutherglen
       Parking Attendent Number: 56
       Contravention: Parked or loading / unloading in a restricted
       street where waiting and loading/unloading restrictions are in
       force.
       Evidence and Parking Ticket Image Link: *IMGUR LINK TO ALBUM*
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       Parking Allowed Times: Monday to Saturday 09:30 - 16:30
       Parking Allowed Length: 30 minutes with 60 minutes no return
       No Loading Times: Monday to Saturday 08:00 - 09:30 AND 16:30 -
       18:00
       Google Street View Link:
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       Short Summary From My Side:
       I pulled up at around 09:15 BST and had not noticed that I was
       parked in the single yellow line zone since it was faded and I
       was in a rush. I also did not notice the sign which was pointed
       towards the pavement. I know neither of these are any form of
       defense, just adding detail. I recieve the Penelty Charge Notice
       at 09:22 and the Evidence is marked as at 09:23. That is 7
       minutes before the parking allowed in the zone which is maybe my
       main formulation behind this since in a 10 minute grace peroid,
       I would have no longer been parking outside the restricted
       times. I actually had returned to my car by 09:40.
       [b]What I Am Looking For:
       I am hoping someone could give me some advice on how to approch
       this and if my grace peroid 10 minutes even makes sense. I have
       started trawling through legislation to see if its codified
       anywhere but its slow progress considering I am not used to the
       language. I have fought private tickets in the past but I am
       finding the council issued PCN to be a whole other kettle of
       fish. I dont want to go ahead and write out my appeal until I
       have a better understanding so if anyone could help with that
       insight or where to go that would be good. Then I can write my
       appeal and maybe have someone give it a once over. £50 is
       unfortunately a lot of money for me just now.
       I appreciate any help given.
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       #Post#: 69990--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN for parking 7 minutes before CPZ allowed (Scotland)
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: May 4, 2025, 3:36 pm
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       I don't know if the 10 min statutory grace applies in Scotland
       but in any case you've misunderstood when it applies - it's only
       after you've been parked in a paid or unpaid parking place.
       In your case you just parked on a yellow line during the
       restricted time.
       It is true that in London there is or has bee guidance not to
       issue within 2 mins of a yellow line restriction ending or at
       start of one beginning but you are way outside this.
       #Post#: 69998--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN for parking 7 minutes before CPZ allowed (Scotland)
   DIR By: mcllsti
       Date: May 4, 2025, 5:00 pm
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > I don't know if the 10 min statutory grace applies in Scotland
       but in any case you've misunderstood when it applies - it's only
       after you've been parked in a paid or unpaid parking place.
       >
       > In your case you just parked on a yellow line during the
       restricted time.
       >
       > It is true that in London there is or has bee guidance not to
       issue within 2 mins of a yellow line restriction ending or at
       start of one beginning but you are way outside this.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That is pretty unfortunate! I thought it was general but that
       makes a bunch of sense considering what I have read so far.
       I guess in this instance I really dont have much of a leg to
       stand on which is painful. For a full 7 minutes! I cant see any
       other real aspect I could bring up.
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