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#Post#: 74130--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich PCN - 31J - Entering and stopping in a box
junction when prohibited
DIR By: GoldFishBowl25
Date: June 1, 2025, 6:09 am
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Hi MrChips,
Thanks for your response. Here's the 2nd page of the rejection
notice and the appeal form.
I missed the 14 day discounted penalty charge window, so I'll
have to appeal now (I think I would have done that anyway on
principle).
Please can you give me a steer on what to say in the appeal
please. The ChatGPT route didn't go well for me last time.
Thank you again for your help - really appreciated
GoldFishBowl25
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#Post#: 74136--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich PCN - 31J - Entering and stopping in a box
junction when prohibited
DIR By: SITR
Date: June 1, 2025, 7:07 am
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Any reasonable Adjudicator should throw this out, but on a
technicality I would also argue that you're not stopped IN the
box, you're on the edge markings.
#Post#: 74143--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich PCN - 31J - Entering and stopping in a box
junction when prohibited
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: June 1, 2025, 7:55 am
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You have plenty of time to submit, and if needed i will be happy
to draft your appeal. you have until the 16 of June to register
your appeal. I suggest you do that towards the end of next week
Where you are asked for evidence write only I did not stop in
the box junction for any reason stated in TSRGD 2016 schedule 9
part 11
Further submissions will be made later
Nothing more. When you have a case ref number come back to us
here
#Post#: 74290--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich PCN - 31J - Entering and stopping in a box
junction when prohibited
DIR By: GoldFishBowl25
Date: June 2, 2025, 5:56 am
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Hi all,
Thank you all for your help with this.
In section 6 of the form "Details of Appeal" the form states
"Explain your case in this section. Please write clearly in the
box.. ..If you need more space continue on a separate sheet."
It seems to be implying they want all the detail here, upfront?
So just want to double-check, shall I put as a response:
"I did not stop in the box junction for any reason stated in
TSRGD 2016 schedule 9 part 11
Further submissions will be made later."
Thank you
I'll submit this week hopefully (so I don't forget to!)
GoldFishBowl25
#Post#: 74325--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich PCN - 31J - Entering and stopping in a box
junction when prohibited
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: June 2, 2025, 9:57 am
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No write what i told you they might infer they want all the
details at this stage but they don't and are required by law to
consider everything submitted by the day before the hearing
#Post#: 74374--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich PCN - 31J - Entering and stopping in a box
junction when prohibited
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 2, 2025, 1:51 pm
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--- Quote from: Pastmybest link ---
>
> No write what i told you they might infer they want all the
details at this stage but they don't and are required by law to
consider everything submitted by the day before the hearing
>
--- End Quote ---
And you never know, they might actually go and read what the
statute says about stopping in YBJs !
#Post#: 75564--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich PCN - 31J - Entering and stopping in a box
junction when prohibited
DIR By: GoldFishBowl25
Date: June 9, 2025, 10:28 am
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Hi Pastmybest,
I have now submitted the appeal online with the wording you
provided above. This is the case reference number: 2250281616
This was the response from the online appeal form:
What happens next:
The tribunal will review your submitted appeal and let you know
if it is accepted within 7 days.
If you do not receive confirmation of the hearing date within 7
days contact us.
If you have further evidence, this can be uploaded by going to
Return to my appeal
Any evidence must be uploaded 7 days before your hearing date or
posted 14 days before to London Tribunals, PO Box 10598,
NOTTINGHAM, NG6 6DR
So now we wait and see what they come back with.
Thanks so much - and I'll post any updates as they come in.
GoldFishBowl
#Post#: 75569--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich PCN - 31J - Entering and stopping in a box
junction when prohibited
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: June 9, 2025, 10:42 am
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Let me know as soon as you have a hearing date best by PM
#Post#: 76072--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich PCN - 31J - Entering and stopping in a box
junction when prohibited
DIR By: GoldFishBowl25
Date: June 11, 2025, 1:39 pm
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Hi Pastmybest,
I got a hearing date back:
The hearing of your appeal will take place using the Microsoft
Teams video conferencing platform on:
5th September 2025 at 09:00.
I was kind of hoping it wouldn't get this far. No such luck.
Is there anything I need to prepare for this?
Thanks
GoldFishBowl25
#Post#: 76157--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich PCN - 31J - Entering and stopping in a box
junction when prohibited
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: June 12, 2025, 4:30 am
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just post on the forum to keep the tread live I will draft you a
skeleton argument all you need do is present it and answer
questions that may be asked by the adjudicator
I will draft the skeleton before I visit my son mid august
though if you can do not submit it until the council upload
their evidence. I will be back well before the hearing to review
it
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