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       #Post#: 69614--------------------------------------------------
       Claim form received, dcb Legal/G24 limited
   DIR By: Digital Gremlin
       Date: May 1, 2025, 3:29 pm
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       Hi all
       It seems I/We are not the only ones to have received a claim
       form for an over 5 year old PCN.
       This has caused my partner no end of stress and they suffer from
       anxiety 😥
       I have said i will deal with it on their behalf and honestly
       have thought of just paying to be rid of it but i believe this
       is not right.
       Iv read i need to submit AoS but have a question. Do you know if
       i can do this via my Government gateway on their behalf as they
       do not have one?
       
       The issue date is 16/04/2025 so either way i need to get this
       done asap.
       Also any other advice would be appreciated, i have looked across
       the forum and the community help seems great, have many people
       reported on if dismissed or winning cases ?
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       #Post#: 69615--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Claim form received, dcb Legal/G24 limited
   DIR By: Digital Gremlin
       Date: May 1, 2025, 3:38 pm
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       Im not sure in its relevance but we have heard nothing from
       anyone for a long time and recently moved when we then got
       letters from dcb.
       #Post#: 69619--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Claim form received, dcb Legal/G24 limited
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: May 1, 2025, 3:54 pm
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       --- Quote from: Digital Gremlin link ---
       >
       > Iv read i need to submit AoS but have a question. Do you know
       if i can do this via my Government gateway on their behalf as
       they do not have one?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If they are the defendant, the AoS and subsequent defence etc.
       will need to be done in their name. You can create an MCOL
       account for them.
       #Post#: 69624--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Claim form received, dcb Legal/G24 limited
   DIR By: Digital Gremlin
       Date: May 1, 2025, 4:15 pm
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       Thank you i will get that sorted.
       #Post#: 69644--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Claim form received, dcb Legal/G24 limited
   DIR By: Digital Gremlin
       Date: May 1, 2025, 6:28 pm
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       The Aos is submitted. I'm unsure exactly how to defend this, I
       currently have zero concrete information other than what is
       stated on the claim form which isn't too much.
       So it's hard to defend without having all the information
       available and the time frame in which it has been left. Should I
       contact the company and request more information photos etc?
       Any advice is appreciated.
       #Post#: 69733--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Claim form received, dcb Legal/G24 limited
   DIR By: b789
       Date: May 2, 2025, 8:31 am
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       Please confirm that you submitted the AoS online using the MCOL
       website?
       With an issue date of 16th April, you have until 4pm on Tuesday
       6th May to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement
       of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on
       Tuesday 20th May to submit your defence.
       If you wanted to submit an AoS then you should have followed the
       instructions in this linked PDF:
  HTML https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0
       Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order that
       goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim
       number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the
       signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft
       order.
       When you're ready you combine both documents as a single PDF
       attachment and send as an attachment in an email to
       claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim
       number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the
       email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft
       order in the matter of G24 Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.:
       [claim number]."
       --- Quote ---
       > [center]IN THE COUNTY COURT[/center]
       > [right]Claim No: [Claim Number][/right]
       >
       > [center]BETWEEN:
       >
       > G24 Ltd
       > Claimant
       >
       > - and -
       >
       > [Defendant's Full Name]
       > 
Defendant
       >
       >
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       >
       > DEFENCE[/center]
       >
       > 1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The
       Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and
       that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not
       adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.
       >
       > 2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of
       Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made
       against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR
       16.4.
       >
       > 3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC
       because:
       >
       > [indent](a) The contract referred to is not detailed or
       attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);
       >
       > (b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or
       clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or
       contracts) which is/are relied on;
       >
       > (c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons)
       why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract
       (or contracts)
       >
       > (d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity
       exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the
       breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was
       parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;
       >
       > (e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is
       calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest,
       damages, or other charges;
       >
       > (f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the
       parking charge and what proportion is damages;
       >
       > (g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is
       sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant
       cannot plead alternative causes of action without
       specificity.[/indent]
       >
       > 4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft
       order approved by a district judge at another court. The court
       struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining
       that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4.
       The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:
       >
       > [indent](i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or
       clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;
       >
       > (ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was
       allegedly in breach of contract;
       >
       > (iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as
       permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).
       >
       > (iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum
       claimed, requiring further case management steps would be
       disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective.
       Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than
       permitting an amendment.[/indent]
       >
       > 5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in
       this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by
       striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with
       CPR 16.4.
       >
       > Statement of truth
       >
       > I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I
       understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought
       against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false
       statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without
       an honest belief in its truth.
       >
       > Signed:
       >
       >
       > Date:
       --- End Quote ---
       Draft Order for the defence
  HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/tcewefk7daozuje25chkl/Strikeout-order-v2.pdf?rlkey=wxnymo8mwcma2jj8xihjm7pdx&st=nbtf0cn6&dl=0
       Is the address on the claim from the defendants current address?
       If not, the AoS should have been made using the correct current
       address. I suggest you immediately send the G24 and DCB Legal
       DPO's a Data Rectification Notice (DRN) instructing them to
       update their records with your current address for service and
       to erase the old address. The highlighted words are there for a
       reason... use them.
       #Post#: 70239--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Claim form received, dcb Legal/G24 limited
   DIR By: Digital Gremlin
       Date: May 6, 2025, 9:52 am
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       Thank you, yes I followed the AoS instructions from the PDF from
       another post you had the link to. Thank you for the draft and
       defence template.
       Honestly, I can't believe this, The strain emotionally on my
       partner has been crazy and I can only imagine others in similar
       states but without support would either pay or set up payment
       plans they cannot afford.
       #Post#: 81573--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Claim form received, dcb Legal/G24 limited
   DIR By: Digital Gremlin
       Date: July 18, 2025, 9:01 am
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       Update to this thread
       Received a letter from DCBL shortly after submitting form,
       stating they disagree and basically their client has instructed
       them to pursue in court.They did not answer anything.
       Later received N180 form via post dated 30 June.
       I have responded using my own fowm not the one supplied, I
       downloaded from link below and discarded paper copies.
  HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf
       Following advice from member [member=26]b789[/member] on another
       thread,
       I have used the following answers to some of the less obvious
       questions:
       • The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".
       • To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the
       "Defendant".
       • C1: "YES"
       • D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their
       evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any
       misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
       Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking
       case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on
       papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage,
       especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to
       have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants
       template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events
       in question.."
       • F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find
       it:
  HTML https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option
       • F3: "1".
       • Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the
       signature.
       When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email
       addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk
       and CC yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the
       subject field of the email.
       Hope you don't mind be reposting your advice b789, but wanted to
       update for anyone looking.
       #Post#: 88236--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Claim form received, dcb Legal/G24 limited
   DIR By: Digital Gremlin
       Date: September 3, 2025, 6:24 am
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       Mediation call incoming. I will offer £0 pounds and ask that
       they cease proceedings.
       #Post#: 89068--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Claim form received, dcb Legal/G24 limited
   DIR By: Digital Gremlin
       Date: September 9, 2025, 4:40 am
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       Had a mediation call, for anyone that is worried, don't be the
       guy on the phone, he was polite and if anything sounded a little
       bored with his job,He explained the reason for the call etc and
       that DCB legal offered to settle for £250.
       I said I offer zero pounds and ask that they cease the
       proceedings. Guy said ok, I will let them know and will give me
       a call back in 10 minutes or so.
       Call back and said they would not accept and would proceed to
       court, I thanked him and said That's fine.
       So will now await the next step, which I expect will be a date
       for the local court. I will keep you all updated.
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