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Tfl PCN debt collection revoked by the court
DIR By: Sam6943
Date: May 1, 2025, 6:02 am
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Hi,
I had a hire scooter (motorcycle) in 2019 where I had 2 tfl
camera parking fines but I have never received anything in the
post. I only found out about them few weeks ago and went up to
almost £900 as per the debt collector agency letter. I have made
an a witness statement appeal through the court and last week
received the court answer. They revoked the TFL PCN debt
collection and recovery. Yesterday, I received the original tfl
PCN's and was asked to pay the original charges within 21 days.
My question is. do I have to pay them? one of them was on the
dotted red box at 18.58 (2 minutes before I was allowed to
park). The other one was at the same place but I parked on the
kirb, which is in my understanding for scooter/motorcycle is
subjective.
Many thanks guys
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Re: Tfl PCN debt collection revoked by the court
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 1, 2025, 6:40 am
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The process has now been reverted to the PCN stage, so you can
pay or appeal. So you can submit representations against the
PCNs and TfL will respond to them as normal.
If you want advice on the PCNs, then please post them up here,
and also tell us the circumstances for each one. GSV links to
the locations would also be useful too. Redact only name and
address on the PCNs. If these were postal PCNs you can also
phone TfL and get them to send DVDs of the CCTV evidence. TfL
then freeze the process for 14 days.
I have to say I am fairly alarmed at the enormous delay in the
process. 2019 to 2025 is six years. If you can, try to find out
from TfL when they served the Charge Certificates, and when they
registered the debts at the Traffic Enforcement Centre.
#Post#: 69594--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tfl PCN debt collection revoked by the court
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: May 1, 2025, 11:48 am
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I had a hire scooter (motorcycle).....
OP, post your PCNs and leave in all dates, times etc, deleting
only the addressee's details and pl confirm whether they're
yours.
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Re: Tfl PCN debt collection revoked by the court
DIR By: Sam6943
Date: May 1, 2025, 11:55 am
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Thank you guys. I think I will just pay the £160.00 for both and
put it to bed. Thank you again for quick response.
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Re: Tfl PCN debt collection revoked by the court
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 1, 2025, 1:07 pm
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> Thank you guys. I think I will just pay the £160.00 for both
and put it to bed. Thank you again for quick response.
>
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Well. don't rush to enrich them before others have had a chance
to comment. The inordinate delay in registering the debt at TEC
is quite out of order, so if you pay, they will continue to
think they are immune from their legal duty of fairness.
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Re: Tfl PCN debt collection revoked by the court
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: May 2, 2025, 3:28 am
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--- Quote from: Sam6943 link ---
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> Thank you guys. I think I will just pay the £160.00 for both
and put it to bed. Thank you again for quick response.
>
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Do you mean £80 for each, the discount rate?
And can someone please confirm the TFL PCN rates that applied in
2019? I believe it was £130, so the discount rate would be £65
per PCN?
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Re: Tfl PCN debt collection revoked by the court
DIR By: Grant Urismo
Date: May 2, 2025, 4:55 am
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Definitely post the PCNs, there are plenty of potential
procedural mistakes that might be found by the experts here
possibly including camera authorisation problems (fixed now, but
might not have been when these were issued), transfer of
liability to hirer procedures being messed up, etc.
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