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#Post#: 69311--------------------------------------------------
LB Waltham Forest - 34 Being in a Bus Lane - Whipps Cross Road
E11
DIR By: shah123
Date: April 29, 2025, 9:09 pm
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Hello,
I received a PCN on 28 April 2025. Driving my partners car.
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As I approached the end of the bus lane, I needed to switch to
the left lane in order to exit at the roundabout traffic
lights.I began the manoeuvre a bit early and crossed the bus
lane but there was no bus behind me. Reason was solely to merge
into the correct lane and not to undertake any cars or disrupt
traffic flow.
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I entered the bus lane two car lengths before the solid line
ended, on the footage provided there are no buses in image.
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Location:
HTML https://goo.gl/maps/ThZCPK5m9pdLo4ju9
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GOOGLE DRIVE:
HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Q8qu8BjQBSD0TFp4aOzyhSHQ0O89jz7N?usp=share_link<br
/>
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Thank you in advance.
#Post#: 69343--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Waltham Forest - 34 Being in a Bus Lane - Whipps Cross
Road E11
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: April 30, 2025, 5:04 am
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I will take a look at the video later. They never turn up at the
Tribunal - which they must - so this could be straightforward.
1. Evidence shows no upright signage passed.
2. I out you to strict proof that the camera used has VCA
certification.
3. Other circumstances - do not admit to anything.
Busy watching the snooker. Back later with a full draft.
#Post#: 69462--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Waltham Forest - 34 Being in a Bus Lane - Whipps Cross
Road E11
DIR By: shah123
Date: April 30, 2025, 4:32 pm
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[member=24]Hippocrates[/member] thank you
#Post#: 69515--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Waltham Forest - 34 Being in a Bus Lane - Whipps Cross
Road E11
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: May 1, 2025, 5:03 am
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Try this:
1. The video does not prove the alleged contravention because it
shows no upright signage allegedly passed.
2. I put you to strict proof that the camera used to captured
the images has VCA approval.
3. I also make a collateral challenge against the validity of
the PCN as it confusingly states that an Enforcement Notice may
be served and on another occasion will be served.
In light of the above, please cancel the PCN.
***
Other issue for later: website page is too general.
#Post#: 69724--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Waltham Forest - 34 Being in a Bus Lane - Whipps Cross
Road E11
DIR By: shah123
Date: May 2, 2025, 7:42 am
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Is it worth noting few metres of the end of bus lane, not trying
to utilise it but used it as an exit lane option? (20m rule)
@Hippocrates
#Post#: 69735--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Waltham Forest - 34 Being in a Bus Lane - Whipps Cross
Road E11
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: May 2, 2025, 8:38 am
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--- Quote from: shah123 link ---
>
> Is it worth noting few metres of the end of bus lane, not
trying to utilise it but used it as an exit lane option? (20m
rule) [member=24]Hippocrates[/member]
>
--- End Quote ---
I would let them prove the alleged contravention and say nowt.
20 m rule does not exist - save for one previous adjudicator a
long time ago.
#Post#: 72410--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Waltham Forest - 34 Being in a Bus Lane - Whipps Cross
Road E11
DIR By: shah123
Date: May 20, 2025, 11:27 am
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[member=24]Hippocrates[/member] Waltham Forest have rejected the
informal appeal on 16 May 2025, I will add the rejection letter
on to Google Drive (link above) if required.
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They have stated the PCN is correct as per CCTV footage, copied
passage below. Option 1: Pay Option 2: Formal Rep and later
Appeal to Adj
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send the same three points from informal rep as formal rep or is
there a different variation to send?
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Thank you for your correspondence regarding the above Penalty
Charge Notice (PCN) and after considering all the evidence the
Authority is satisfied that the contravention occurred and that
the PCN was issued correctly.
You have been issued a PCN as your vehicle has been observed by
the CCTV footage at the scene to have travelled within the Bus
Lane.
The bus lane is separated from the carriage way by a solid white
line which runs until the end of the bus lane. Where a motorist
must pass through a bus lane to make a left turn, there will be
a break in the solid white line accompanied by a left turn arrow
allowing motorists to enter the bus lane in order to make a left
turn. This is usually located around 20 meters prior to the
junction in question.
The bus lane at this location does not have these markings as it
is located at the approach to a roundabout and therefore
motorists are not permitted to enter this bus lane regardless of
the distance travelled or time spent in the restricted area.
Any part of a vehicle located in a bus lane would result in the
vehicle being issued with a PCN. Drivers have a responsibility
to check for and understand signs and markings and to drive in
accordance with them.
Whilst I empathise with the circumstances you have described in
your correspondence; I have found no grounds to cancel the PCN.
The authority are satisfied that the contravention occurred as
the CCTV footage shows your vehicle travelling within the bus
lane. Therefore this PCN was issued correctly and you remain
liable for the charge.
#Post#: 72451--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Waltham Forest - 34 Being in a Bus Lane - Whipps Cross
Road E11
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: May 20, 2025, 2:18 pm
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I cannot access the link with their letter.
#Post#: 72483--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Waltham Forest - 34 Being in a Bus Lane - Whipps Cross
Road E11
DIR By: shah123
Date: May 20, 2025, 9:25 pm
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[member=24]Hippocrates[/member]
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Files added today
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HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Q8qu8BjQBSD0TFp4aOzyhSHQ0O89jz7N?usp=sharing
#Post#: 72495--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Waltham Forest - 34 Being in a Bus Lane - Whipps Cross
Road E11
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: May 21, 2025, 3:26 am
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I cannot see the whole of the letter. Did you send what I
drafted?
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