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Islington council PCN Grosvenor Avenue N5
DIR By: freshouttahecks
Date: April 21, 2025, 10:26 am
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HI,
I received a PCN whilst working for a customer on Grosvenor
avenue in Islington. The customer had paid for my parking via
the RingGo app and has sent me the receipt. The parking code is
62020 on the Ring Go receipt.
I appealed it and sent the receipt for the parking, the parking
code 62020 the customer had used comes back as Grosvenor Avenue
- Zone Q when you put that into Ring Go
They have declined my appeal and said that only applies to
certain bays on the street. I have never had a problem using
RingGo to park and used it while I lived in Walthamstow to cover
guests parking for the CPZ. But I guess that was for a whole
zone rather than one bay number.
I’ve swallowed a few and paid them but I feel like this is
utterly ridiculous as the parking code comes back as Zone Q of
which the customer has covered and the PCN says I was parked in
Zone Q without a ticket.
I have until the 28th to pay the lower amount, is there any room
for appeal?
What do you guys need me to attach (if anything) as I have the
original ticket, the appeal response & the parking receipt.
Regards
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Re: Islington council PCN
DIR By: catnip
Date: April 21, 2025, 10:30 am
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We'll need to see all of the documents that you have.
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Re: Islington council PCN Grosvenor Avenue N5
DIR By: freshouttahecks
Date: April 21, 2025, 10:36 am
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Hopefully this works?
HTML https://imgur.com/a/rGHiBVP
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Re: Islington council PCN Grosvenor Avenue N5
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 21, 2025, 11:13 am
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Islington has form on initially being unreasonable about these
situations but can back down when pressed.
Your customer bought a pay session for a shared use
pay/residents bay further along the road instead of buying a
visitor's permit that would have been valid in the bay you were
in.
But given £13 has been forked out for parking for 1 hour -
probably a lot more than if it had been a visitor permit - not
to cancel this I'd say is contrary to government fairness
guidance for an honest mistake that did not disadvantage the
council.
The problem is that the tribunal can't apply mitigation so to go
on with this you'd be aiming to get Islington to cancel at
formal stage.
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Re: Islington council PCN Grosvenor Avenue N5
DIR By: freshouttahecks
Date: April 21, 2025, 11:40 am
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Thanks for your considered reply. I am mindful to fight this and
just pay the full amount if the tribunal make me. I think the
risk vs reward is worth it. So just to be clear, I should make a
full account of what happened to the council once they send out
the next stage?
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Re: Islington council PCN Grosvenor Avenue N5
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 21, 2025, 12:05 pm
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Who is the registered keeper of the van.
The case below has similarities but was stronger - but a key
here is to involve your customer with a witness statement on
what they thought they had bought you as RingGo can be
confusing.
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HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/islington-code-12-parked-without-valid-permit-clephane-road(zone-t)/
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Re: Islington council PCN Grosvenor Avenue N5
DIR By: freshouttahecks
Date: April 21, 2025, 1:09 pm
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Thanks very much. Customer has stated he is happy to help with
anything so will have a word.
I’m the registered keeper of the van
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Re: Islington council PCN Grosvenor Avenue N5
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 21, 2025, 6:00 pm
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Can you, please, also post a GSV view of the location telling
us exactly where you parked
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Re: Islington council PCN Grosvenor Avenue N5
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 22, 2025, 4:28 am
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The bay the OP was in:
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5487462,-0.095327,3a,75y,114.94h,67.47t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxyYf90EocY_GXiBOS9-ZKA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D22.53234943773579%26panoid%3DxyYf90EocY_GXiBOS9-ZKA%26yaw%3D114.93908132413532!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQxNi4xIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNjM5SAFQAw%3D%3D
The shared use bay with the location number is on the same side
back down the road (I don't know why Maps says this bit is
Spring Gardens - it's still Grosvenor Avenue):
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5490371,-0.0938533,3a,75y,209.34h,77.49t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sg64CALk60hwZAAjVwBh_ag!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D12.510164144129732%26panoid%3Dg64CALk60hwZAAjVwBh_ag%26yaw%3D209.3413458746533!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQxNi4xIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNjM5SAFQAw%3D%3D
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Re: Islington council PCN Grosvenor Avenue N5
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 22, 2025, 6:17 am
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Essentially the case is around the fact that the resident the OP
was visiting paid for parking in a bay where pay-by-phone was
available, but should have paid for a visitor permit for the bay
he was in which was residents only..
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