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Re: Haringey, code 16 Parked in a permit space or zone without a
valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a valid phys
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 14, 2025, 9:09 am
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Well you said:
[i]The reason why he was not able to put the notice on the car
is because I was leaving and he was rushing to create a ticket
before I go.[/I]
In these situations should you take it to the tribunal it's your
word against the CEO's (who will have made notes). If you can
make the case that you would have accepted the PCN then you can
do so.
Haringey will almost certainly reoffer the discounted penalty
should they reject representations.
#Post#: 71290--------------------------------------------------
Re: Haringey, code 16 Parked in a permit space or zone without a
valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a valid phys
DIR By: afroditi
Date: May 13, 2025, 9:29 am
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Hello,
following up on this, I challenged the PCN explaining the
situation and today I received an update stating the below:
"Although this Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) can be formally
challenged, any challenge needs to be
made by the person we sent the PCN to, regardless of who the
driver was."
So they ask the registered keeper to send it on my behalf, but
on their platform (Haringey portal) there doesn't seem to be a
way to proceed with this, attached here a picture showing the
options.
Anybody knows what's the best way to proceed? (add the text that
the registered keeper authorises me under the "contact us" tab
or send them a 1st class letter?) - I would rather have all
evidence online hence why I want to ask if there is an option
other than the letter.
Also, the discounted period should still apply after that,
correct?
Thanks a lot in advance.
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#Post#: 71307--------------------------------------------------
Re: Haringey, code 16 Parked in a permit space or zone without a
valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a valid phys
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 13, 2025, 10:00 am
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As it's a postal PCN it acts the same as a notice to owner and
only the owner (presumed to be the keeper) can make reps.
The keeper can authorise you to make reps on their behalf, or
you can just reword it to refer to the driver.
#Post#: 71310--------------------------------------------------
Re: Haringey, code 16 Parked in a permit space or zone without a
valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a valid phys
DIR By: afroditi
Date: May 13, 2025, 10:05 am
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Thank you [member=2249]stamfordman[/member], I understood that,
but I don't know what is the best way for the keeper to
authorise me now, or to reword it to refer to me - how do we go
about doing that?
It's not explained in their letter or on the PCN itself
#Post#: 71311--------------------------------------------------
Re: Haringey, code 16 Parked in a permit space or zone without a
valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a valid phys
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: May 13, 2025, 10:07 am
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Post their letter please.
And surely the penalty level is wrong.
Higher level penalties increased to £160 on 7 April. The date of
contravention here was 8th.
#Post#: 71314--------------------------------------------------
Re: Haringey, code 16 Parked in a permit space or zone without a
valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a valid phys
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 13, 2025, 10:11 am
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> Higher level penalties increased to £160 on 7 April. The date
of contravention here was 8th.
>
--- End Quote ---
Haringey deferred the increase to 14 April.
#Post#: 71317--------------------------------------------------
Re: Haringey, code 16 Parked in a permit space or zone without a
valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a valid phys
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: May 13, 2025, 10:13 am
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I see no photo of the car with the sign. For future reference,
the website is still too general:
The Contact Us page: no grounds.
I usually get the registered keeper to produce a letter of
authorisation in a pdf and upload it.
#Post#: 71323--------------------------------------------------
Re: Haringey, code 16 Parked in a permit space or zone without a
valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a valid phys
DIR By: afroditi
Date: May 13, 2025, 10:22 am
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[member=428]H C Andersen[/member] Haringey was a bit late to the
party and they increased charges a few days later as per this
HTML https://www.haringey.gov.uk/parking/pcns-parking-traffic/charges-parking-traffic-pcns#:~:text=Charges%20are%20%C2%A3110%20or,goes%20up%20to%20%C2%A3175.<br
/>page, but very well spotted :)
Attached a picture of the letter without personal details.
Thank you!
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#Post#: 71324--------------------------------------------------
Re: Haringey, code 16 Parked in a permit space or zone without a
valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a valid phys
DIR By: afroditi
Date: May 13, 2025, 10:27 am
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[member=24]Hippocrates[/member] thanks for your response, by
uploading it you mean under the "contact us" tab?
The reason why I'm asking in detail is to make sure that the way
I will do it will have the desired effect towards putting this
back on hold.
p.s. the link you sent doesn't seem to point to a static page so
not sure what the info was there.
#Post#: 71330--------------------------------------------------
Re: Haringey, code 16 Parked in a permit space or zone without a
valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a valid phys
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: May 13, 2025, 10:43 am
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As regards the penalty, penalties are not set by councils
individually, they are set by London Councils and ratified by
the Mayor of London and Secretary of State.
Did Haringey have external authority to depart from the
London-wide increases?
HTML https://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/news-and-press-releases/2025/london-boroughs-raise-parking-and-traffic-pcn-levels-first-time-2011-0
HTML https://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2025-03/tec_-_agenda_and_papers_-_19_march_2025_-_final_1.pdf
Which arise from this report:
HTML https://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2024-12/london_parking_and_traffic_enforcement_penalty_charges_consultation_analysis_report_2024_v2.pdf
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