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       #Post#: 6028--------------------------------------------------
       London Borough of Newham for Unpaid Penalty charge
   DIR By: ConfusedD
       Date: September 25, 2023, 7:39 am
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       This morning, we received an unexpected ORDER OF RECOVERY of
       unpaid penalty charge, which is the first time we've encountered
       such a notice. Surprisingly, the address mentioned on the PCN
       appears to be our old address. We completed our move in December
       2021, and all our car details, including insurance, have been
       updated with the DVLA to reflect our current address. It's
       perplexing how this penalty notice ended up at our previous
       address.
       As you can see on the envelope, our new address has been
       handwritten. While we plan to reach out to the individuals
       currently residing at our old address to inquire about this, we
       also want to know how to go about appealing this case.
       Specifically since this is the first time we have been made
       aware of this PCN.
       Given this situation, we would greatly appreciate your guidance
       on how to proceed with this case.
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       #Post#: 6029--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Borough of Newham for Unpaid Penalty charge
   DIR By: ConfusedD
       Date: September 25, 2023, 7:40 am
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       Re: London Borough of Newham for Unpaid Penalty charge
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: September 25, 2023, 11:17 am
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       What is the date on your updated V5C?
       #Post#: 6042--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Borough of Newham for Unpaid Penalty charge
   DIR By: ConfusedD
       Date: September 25, 2023, 12:13 pm
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       I checked now  :(  and noticed that the change was not made
       immediately, we only made the change this March after the PCN
       contravention was issued. Unfortunately, we didn't receive all
       the Correspondence until today. Even if we want to pay this PCN,
       we have lost the discounted period.
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       #Post#: 6050--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Borough of Newham for Unpaid Penalty charge
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: September 25, 2023, 1:38 pm
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       Please post-up the Order fror Recovery.  Leave dates in.
       #Post#: 6076--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Borough of Newham for Unpaid Penalty charge
   DIR By: ConfusedD
       Date: September 26, 2023, 4:05 am
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       > Please post-up the Order fror Recovery.  Leave dates in.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       hi Incandescent , I have posted all the documents I received.
       Please let me know if the images are unclear or difficult to
       read.
       #Post#: 6084--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Borough of Newham for Unpaid Penalty charge
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: September 26, 2023, 4:54 am
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       Sorry, didn't realise.
       YOur OfR is dated 27th July so you are well outside any
       possibility of submitting an in-time Statutory Declaration.
       Probably the best option is to pay the OfR now, before bailiffs
       get involved, assuming they will accept it. I'm sure you don't
       want to have to pay this plus bailiff fees.
       #Post#: 6085--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Borough of Newham for Unpaid Penalty charge
   DIR By: ConfusedD
       Date: September 26, 2023, 5:07 am
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       > Sorry, didn't realise.
       > YOur OfR is dated 27th July so you are well outside any
       possibility of submitting an in-time Statutory Declaration.
       > Probably the best option is to pay the OfR now, before
       bailiffs get involved, assuming they will accept it. I'm sure
       you don't want to have to pay this plus bailiff fees.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If we pay the OfR now, will they consider to refund since we
       never received this PCN in the first place?
       #Post#: 6087--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Borough of Newham for Unpaid Penalty charge
   DIR By: ConfusedD
       Date: September 26, 2023, 5:26 am
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       I called the number provided in the OfR, and the administrative
       officer agreed to email me PE2, advising that I submit both PE3
       and PE2 today. He is uncertain if the case has been escalated to
       bailiffs yet, but due to the date of the unpaid notice (July),
       he advised me to promptly email the forms.
       I also consulted a local solicitor who is familiar with PE2 and
       PE3 forms. The solicitor has agreed to witness my submission,
       ticking the box that states:
       "I did not receive the: Notice to Owner (Parking Contravention)
       or Enforcement Notice (Bus Lane Contravention) or Penalty Charge
       Notice (Moving Traffic Contravention or Congestion Charging
       Contravention)."
       I will email these documents to tec@justice.gov.uk.
       Is there anything else I should consider to expedite the
       process?
       #Post#: 6092--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Borough of Newham for Unpaid Penalty charge
   DIR By: Enceladus
       Date: September 26, 2023, 6:39 am
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       Let's see.
       The windowed envelope that the OfR arrived in has a hand written
       new address?
       But does the OfR document itself have your correct and current
       address? Or is it the old address?
       Don't submit the PE2/PE3 until it's clear what you're going to
       say about being late.
       Also you updated the V5c RK address on March 15th. The
       contravention was Feb 25th When exactly did you move?
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