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#Post#: 6082--------------------------------------------------
Re: County court judgement but no letters - Bailiff
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: September 26, 2023, 4:42 am
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OK, the address was correct !! You'll need to put chapter and
verse on this issue in any submission to you make to TEC. TfL
can object to it, so I suggest you also include details of your
contacts with them to discuss the address issue.
#Post#: 6203--------------------------------------------------
Re: County court judgement but no letters - Bailiff
DIR By: Neil B
Date: September 27, 2023, 6:04 am
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> It is unfortunately too late to avoid paying this judgement
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No, it's not too late to seek a refund but you will need
something to say on the TE7 form.
You are not giving us anything.
#Post#: 6220--------------------------------------------------
Re: County court judgement but no letters - Bailiff
DIR By: Paul@amv-uk.com
Date: September 27, 2023, 8:34 am
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Unfortunately I do not have anything to give you as I can ever
prove that the letters did not arrive. I could scan and post the
50 or so PCN letters that I have had previously but that still
would not prove anything. The sworn oaths that I have made are
PE3 and not PE7. During the last few days I have been
communication with my MP and I have just received a letter from
him promising to take this up with the minister responsible in
the government and I am going to shake a lot more trees in the
next few weeks.
The letter said...
Thank you for following up regarding requirements for
organisations to ensure individuals being pursued for Penalty
Charge Notice or bailiff payments are correctly notified that
such funds are being chased up.
What I will do is write to the Secretary of State for Justice,
Rt Hon Alex Chalk MP, to highlight the experiences you have
outlined, including your suggestion of the compulsory use of
registered post for such written correspondence.
When my office receives a response I will of course share this
with you.
I will of course keep you updated.
#Post#: 6226--------------------------------------------------
Re: County court judgement but no letters - Bailiff
DIR By: Neil B
Date: September 27, 2023, 10:37 am
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> The sworn oaths that I have made are PE3 and not PE7.
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Enceladus has highlighted that the bailiff issue concerned a
parking issue, so that one requires forms TE9 and TE7 in order
to seek a refund. They are slightly easier in that they do not
need swearing/witnessing ----- but you still have nothing to
offer for the TE7.
#Post#: 6227--------------------------------------------------
Re: County court judgement but no letters - Bailiff
DIR By: Paul@amv-uk.com
Date: September 27, 2023, 10:40 am
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OK thanks for clarifying that.
#Post#: 6228--------------------------------------------------
Re: County court judgement but no letters - Bailiff
DIR By: Neil B
Date: September 27, 2023, 10:42 am
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> Thanks for the reply, the details on the V5 were 100% accurate
I had the V5 in my name and address from January 2021 until
August 2023. I still have a copy of the V5 and I also have the
notification of sale from the DVLA. There are 2 PCN's and in
both cases I never received the original PCN or any following
letters but on the PCN of 25 May I did receive the order for
recovery which first alerted me to the problem, the second PCN
was dated 18 April and the first I knew anything about it was
when bailiff's turned up at my home 0n 20 September. I have had
perhaps over 50 dealings with TFL for vehicles I own and were
registered with me over the last 6 years and in every case the
letters arrived and were dealt with.
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But this assumes TfL don't make mistakes --- while we know they
do.
You've been advised to phone TEC to ask a specific question but
you haven't. I don't see what else we can say.
#Post#: 6230--------------------------------------------------
Re: County court judgement but no letters - Bailiff
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: September 27, 2023, 11:19 am
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OP, in addition to actioning Neil B's request, can I suggest you
also look at this backwards.
DVLA would put Mickey Mouse, Toyland down as the registered
keeper if required. The point being that they do not validate
addresses, merely record them.
So, we're back to your address. IMO, the only 'correct' address
is the one allocated by the local council when the property was
approved. And this populates the Royal Mail's database:
HTML https://www.royalmail.com/find-a-postcode
So as a penultimate throw of the dice - put your postcode in and
see how your 'correct' address appears.
Ultimately, is your letterbox yours alone or shared?
#Post#: 6240--------------------------------------------------
Re: County court judgement but no letters - Bailiff
DIR By: NightSoul
Date: September 27, 2023, 12:27 pm
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
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>
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> DVLA would put Mickey Mouse, Toyland down as the registered
keeper if required. The point being that they do not validate
addresses, merely record them.
>
>
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That is not right.
DVLA validates all new keeper addresses on the Postcode Address
File.
#Post#: 6259--------------------------------------------------
Re: County court judgement but no letters - Bailiff
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: September 28, 2023, 1:29 am
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On the 23rd Sep TFL issued a replacement PCN in respect of your
missing ULEZ PCN and the SD you submitted to the TEC.
Has it arrived with you and when?
#Post#: 6261--------------------------------------------------
Re: County court judgement but no letters - Bailiff
DIR By: Paul@amv-uk.com
Date: September 28, 2023, 2:35 am
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Enceladus
" On the 23rd Sep TFL issued a replacement PCN in respect of
your missing ULEZ PCN and the SD you submitted to the TEC.
Has it arrived with you and when?"
You are absolutely correct in this as I did call TFL as well as
TEC to request copies of all letters, at the same time I checked
they had my correct address and they did. The copies from TFL
have not arrived as yet and I have not received anything further
from TEC except for the confirmation email.
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