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#Post#: 65569--------------------------------------------------
Bexley, Code 73 Parked without payment, Felixstowe Rd Car Park,
Abbey Wood
DIR By: S23
Date: April 3, 2025, 11:13 am
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Location: Felixstowe Road Car Park, Abbey Wood
Date of alleged contravention: 12/12/2024 (20:24)
Date Challenge Sent: 13/12/2024
Date of Challenge Rejection Letter: 26/03/2025
Link to PCN, challenge rejection letter and photographic
evidence:
HTML https://drive.proton.me/urls/KT5Z4AA8S0#U3zVOhiaGDoI
HTML https://drive.proton.me/urls/KT5Z4AA8S0#U3zVOhiaGDoI
Google street view: Link here
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.491355,0.1219306,3a,75y,23.73h,95.54t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sTn76M12ErD9Lz8mdRUiXEg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DTn76M12ErD9Lz8mdRUiXEg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D39.97976%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu.<br
/>Note: Car park not built at time of Google street view data
collection.
Hi all,
The driver parked in a station car park at 19:25. They
remembered later in evening they had not paid and then paid via
RingGo app at 21:45 (£2.50 for overnight parking after 18:00).
Upon returning to their car at 22:30, there was a PCN affixed to
the windscreen of the car (time of contravention 20:24). This
car park has changed their operating hours last year as they
previously operated only between 8am-6pm every day. It now
operated at all times, every day. This is the reason the driver
forgot to pay in their haste to catch a train in the evening.
Please note the challenge was submitted on 13th December, but
the rejection letter was received much later (dated 26th March).
The challenge was a general plea to cancel it as the driver had
paid for a ticket before they arrived back to the car, though it
was too late.
Please let me know if there is any technical reason this might
not be enforceable, otherwise they will pay it by 8th March for
the reduced charge of £30. Many thanks in advance
#Post#: 65575--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bexley, Code 73 Parked without payment, Felixstowe Rd Car
Park, Abbey Wood
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: April 3, 2025, 1:36 pm
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The PCN looks OK.
Why do you think the re-offered discount ends on 8 March?
#Post#: 65578--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bexley, Code 73 Parked without payment, Felixstowe Rd Car
Park, Abbey Wood
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 3, 2025, 2:25 pm
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> The PCN looks OK.
>
> Why do you think the re-offered discount ends on 8 March?
>
--- End Quote ---
OP is mistaken, the letter re-offers the discount for 14 days
from date of rejection letter which is 24th March, so final day
is 8th April.
The PCN states "parked without payment of the parking charge",
so at the time the CEO was correct to serve the PCN, but the OP
paid later, and as the charge when he paid covers the overnight
period from 18.00 onwards, payment was .
HOwever, does OP want to fight the matter on this basis and risk
the full PCN penalty ? For me, payment was made, albeit late.
Unlike paying in a car park late during the day, and paying much
later, the payment would be timed from payment time, but here it
covers the whole evening and overnight period.
#Post#: 66026--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bexley, Code 73 Parked without payment, Felixstowe Rd Car
Park, Abbey Wood
DIR By: S23
Date: April 7, 2025, 5:55 pm
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You're right, I meant 8th April for reduced payment and not 8th
March.
I have read online that there may have been a 56 day time limit
to be sent the notice of rejection and they may have exceeded
this. Does this apply in my case? It seems the only reason to
potentially avoid paying this tomorrow. Many thanks
#Post#: 66028--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bexley, Code 73 Parked without payment, Felixstowe Rd Car
Park, Abbey Wood
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 7, 2025, 6:16 pm
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The 56 days period is the limit for responding to formal
representations against a Notice to Owner. Your representations
were an informal challenge to a PCN served at the roadside, and
there is no limit. Having said that, anything over three months
would be regardes as unfair, and a brach of their legal duty to
act fairly. So your point about a 56 day limit doesn't apply at
the moment.
The next stage, if you don't pay up, is they will serve a Notice
to Owner. Any reps against this must receive a response within
56 days.
#Post#: 66029--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bexley, Code 73 Parked without payment, Felixstowe Rd Car
Park, Abbey Wood
DIR By: S23
Date: April 7, 2025, 6:37 pm
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On the balance of things, I will pay tomorrow as I personally
cannot see anything worthwhile to formally appeal against. Thank
you for your post
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