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TFL Congestion Charge PCN Shoreditch High Street
DIR By: JLA
Date: September 22, 2023, 4:53 am
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Hi All, just want to say thanks to cp8759 & southpaw for setting
this site up as the old one has been a massive help over the
years, also to everyone else that gives their time & advice,
it's really appreciated.
Have just received this PCN from TFL. I remember being in that
area on the day & driving down Shoreditch High Street but i'm
certain i didn't drive into the section in the congestion charge
zone. There are 5 images on the TFL site, none show the exact
location on Shoreditch High St & there's no video footage either
& there's no reference to the exact location on the PCN. Does
TFL have to provide video footage showing the contravention or
at least a photo showing the location or stating the exact
location on the PCN rather than just photos of my car which
could be on any road anywhere?
Would appreciate any help/advice please. Hope the images are ok.
Thanks.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/aOXye3y
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Re: TFL Congestion Charge PCN Shoreditch High Street
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: September 22, 2023, 5:30 am
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Copied over from PPP
Shoreditch High Street (A10) is very long
HTML https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=Shoreditch%20High%20Street%20#map=19/51.52255/-0.07787
HTML https://content.tfl.gov.uk/congestion-charge-zone-map.pdf
shows
the CC boundary as Commercial Street/Great Eastern Street - are
you certain you did not cross it?
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Re: TFL Congestion Charge PCN Shoreditch High Street
DIR By: JLA
Date: September 22, 2023, 10:18 am
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I'm as sure as i can be from my recollection as i drive that way
a lot so am aware of the zone, but if i actually did drive into
it doesn't TFL have to show that i was in an exact location and
is there no requirement for them to provide video footage? If
not then i'll just have to pay up as i can't prove otherwise,
unless there's any errors on the PCN i could possibly argue?
Thanks.
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Re: TFL Congestion Charge PCN Shoreditch High Street
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: September 22, 2023, 12:15 pm
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Personally, I cannot see how the photographic evidence proves
the location.
The experts (I am not one) here may know if there is any mileage
in this + vague location.
The will also know if TfL re-offer the discount if reps received
by them within the 14 days.
They will also know if there is anything in the 'small print',
and if the definition of service is adequate.
I don't suppose you have dash-cam footage?
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Re: TFL Congestion Charge PCN Shoreditch High Street
DIR By: JLA
Date: September 22, 2023, 12:39 pm
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Thanks, but no dash cam unfortunately, i see what you mean about
definition of service, it is quite vague. I'll have to pay at
last minute if there's no other arguments.
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Re: TFL Congestion Charge PCN Shoreditch High Street
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 23, 2023, 7:03 am
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Call TFL on Monday and ask for the video, they send a DVD in the
post and they should put the penalty on hold while you wait.
EDIT: I've found the location, it's here:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/qySahJmhXd9cN56U8
This is the camera that snapped you:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/ebJxSx9TboAQhRoC9
Directional AWS on the left:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/YcAEZDTsWJjwWC3x5
(this is the only
permitted approach, you can't turn left or right from Commercial
Street or Great Eastern Street).
Regulatory sign:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/3tAWuvwAoiXuNfAE6
You only realistic hope is if there's some issue with the signs,
but you'd have to go back and check (and get photos).
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Re: TFL Congestion Charge PCN Shoreditch High Street
DIR By: JLA
Date: September 24, 2023, 8:40 am
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Thanks cp8759 for your reply, really appreciate your time &
effort & John u.k too, but I've decided to pay it as I just
don't have the time right now to spend on it. If there was
something concrete to go on I would definitely have fought it,
but TFL wins this one!! >:(
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