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#Post#: 69328--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: April 30, 2025, 4:07 am
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Yes, my apologies. I misunderstood that the SD for ZN14587347
has already been submitted.
For the purposes of Witness Statements and Statutory
Declarations you are the Respondent and the Council/TFL is the
Applicant. Did you get get that correct?
Did you receive an Acknowledgement email from the TEC? Please
keep it safe.
Do you still have the envelope that the Order for Recovery
arrived in? Are there any postmarks that might indicate when it
was posted?
#Post#: 69335--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: April 30, 2025, 4:34 am
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--- Quote ---
> I will give the Council a call after 10am (non emergency
hours) and see if they can give me some clarification as to what
this status means and update here.
--- End Quote ---
I called the Council and asked about 'On Hold - DMC Rule' - they
responded they are not sure what that is, it could be some
internal note such as software-specific code. All in All, it was
on hold during that time. They couldn't elaborate more.
--- Quote from: Enceladus link ---
>
> Yes, my apologies. I misunderstood that the SD for ZN14587347
has already been submitted.
>
> For the purposes of Witness Statements and Statutory
Declarations you are the Respondent and the Council/TFL is the
Applicant. Did you get get that correct?
>
--- End Quote ---
No problem :) Yes this is what I specified in each form.
--- Quote from: Enceladus link ---
>
> Did you receive an Acknowledgement email from the TEC? Please
keep it safe.
>
> Do you still have the envelope that the Order for Recovery
arrived in? Are there any postmarks that might indicate when it
was posted?
>
--- End Quote ---
I keep all my email, the acknowledgement from TEC as well.
On the envelope, there is nothing to indicate when it was posted
or delivered. Some qr code of barcode length, and in the
top-right just 'Royal Mail - Postage Paid GB - HQ 11730'
#Post#: 69750--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: May 2, 2025, 9:27 am
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Update, I went to check with my neighbours for any letters and
decided to start recording video evidence. I have not found
anything from the council but found different one that was
addressed to me, for the correct address, but it was delivered
to wrong address. Which means that mistakes happen, even if its
Royal Mail
#Post#: 69755--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: May 2, 2025, 9:46 am
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Does the letter concern any of the three PCNs mentioned in this
thread?
If so, please post it up, just redact your name & address. Leave
everything else visible.
If not, then please start a new thread.
#Post#: 69757--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: May 2, 2025, 10:06 am
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--- Quote from: Enceladus link ---
>
> Does the letter concern any of the three PCNs mentioned in
this thread?
>
> If so, please post it up, just redact your name & address.
Leave everything else visible.
>
> If not, then please start a new thread.
>
--- End Quote ---
Unfortunately not, its not related to PCN.
I will try to get in touch with Royal Mail to see if perhaps
there is any form of subject access request I can do, to see if
they have logs of letters that were addressed to me between my
move in date and 1st of may 2025
#Post#: 70151--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: May 6, 2025, 4:23 am
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Update, I woke up this morning to check the status of my PCNs
and I see that one of them has disappeared from the list on
council website (
HTML https://haringey.tarantoportal.com/PCNs/).<br
/>Could it be because I submitted PE3 form? Only ZN14202158 and
ZN1484088A is shown. ZN14587347 is gone, do I expect a new PCN
(for £65) ? , what If I don't receive this one as well (I hope
at least it will be visible online so I will have the number of
new PCN if there will be one)
#Post#: 70167--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: May 6, 2025, 5:00 am
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--- Quote from: czgm1h link ---
>
> Update, I woke up this morning to check the status of my PCNs
and I see that one of them has disappeared from the list on
council website (
HTML https://haringey.tarantoportal.com/PCNs/).<br
/>Could it be because I submitted PE3 form? Only ZN14202158 and
ZN1484088A is shown. ZN14587347 is gone, do I expect a new PCN
(for £65) ? , what If I don't receive this one as well (I hope
at least it will be visible online so I will have the number of
new PCN if there will be one)
>
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ZN14587347 is still live. Just not linked to the other two. From
the log it seems the TEC accepted your PE3 Statutory Declaration
and revoked the Order for Recovery and cancelled the Charge
Cert. Haringey have today issued a replacement postal PCN. It
should be sent to the address you put on the PE3 SD form. This
PCN currently sits at £65, ie the discount rate.
The PCN should reach you by this Thursday the 8th May. Post back
immediately you get the PCN.
You should also be receiving a copy of the TEC decision shortly.
"06/05/2025 03:00
02/05/2025 17:35
02/05/2025 17:35
Owner Received
01/05/2025 16:49
01/05/2025 16:49
29/04/2025 09:13
17/04/2025 13:18
07/04/2025 13:40
03/02/2025 10:17
registered PCN (03/02/2025)
23/12/2024 06:00
12/11/2024 03:00
#Post#: 70290--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: May 6, 2025, 1:24 pm
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Please clarify where you stand with with PCN ZN14202158?
AIUI the PCN escalated to bailiff enforcement.
You paid the bailiff to freeze the charges? How much did you pay
and when exactly?
You subsequently submitted a Statutory Declaration with an Out
of Time application? When exactly?
Have you heard anything about the OOT application from the
Traffic Enforcement Centre at Northampton County Court and/or
have you received a Statement of Truth document from the
Council? If yes to either then please up what you received.
Thanks,
#Post#: 70359--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: May 7, 2025, 4:31 am
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--- Quote from: Enceladus link ---
>
> Please clarify where you stand with with PCN ZN14202158?
>
> AIUI the PCN escalated to bailiff enforcement.
> You paid the bailiff to freeze the charges? How much did you
pay and when exactly?
> You subsequently submitted a Statutory Declaration with an Out
of Time application? When exactly?
>
> Have you heard anything about the OOT application from the
Traffic Enforcement Centre at Northampton County Court and/or
have you received a Statement of Truth document from the
Council? If yes to either then please up what you received.
>
> Thanks,
>
--- End Quote ---
Morning,
1st of April 2025 - NOE of enforcement received for ZN14202158
2nd of April 2025 - Payment sent to enforcement agency for a
total of £280 (this is including £75 complaince fee) for
ZN14202158
9th of April 2025 - Witnessed & Signed & Submitted PE2 (out of
time) and PE3 for ZN14202158 to tec@justice.gov.uk. Received
email response back that it has been acknowledged. Response
included "*If you have submitted an out of time application,
please note that it will take approx. 8 – 10 weeks for a
decision to be made. You will be informed of the outcome in due
course."
29th April 2025 - Received Haringey City Council opposal letter
for my out of time application - ZN14202158
- Latest update on this is from 29th April 2025, the opposal
letter from the Haringey council. Nothing else received via post
or email as of today (07 May 2025).
// Update
I just called TEC (07 may 2025) to get an update on the status
of my PCNs directly:
ZN14202158 - informed me it might take around 8 - 14 weeks from
the date the submission was made to get a decision (slightly
higher than what's in email)
ZN1484088A - No update on debt registration yet (I expect this
to happen within a week or so, looking at my previous PCN debt
registration dates)
// Slightly off topic
I have a neighbour that I share the entry door with for post,
she is an old grandma. I noticed that some letters addressed to
my address have disappeared, I didn't pick them up as they were
not in my name. I did ask her if she had accidentally took the
letters in my name, but she said all she does is to write 'RTS -
Return to Sender' and put it in the post for everything but my
name. I just hope she doesn't have some sort of memory problems
and mistakenly returned some of my letters... But I think that's
unlikely given that Haringey opposal letter stated they haven't
received any letters back.
#Post#: 70499--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: May 8, 2025, 5:02 am
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Update
08 May 2025:
- [ZN14587347] Received my first PCN from Haringey City Council.
The address on the letter does not have the range (xxx-xxx) of
addresses I mentioned in my earlier post, I believe this is
because this was taken from my PE3 form, and not DVLA.
Date of notice of this PCN letter is: 06/05/2025
I will proceed to pay this £65 later today.
NOTE: when I talk about range of addresses, this is what I mean:
DVLA address would look like: 123A (120-126) <Road Name>,
London, <Post Code>
PCN address : 123A <Road Name>, London, <Post Code>
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