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#Post#: 65218--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 1, 2025, 11:40 am
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Yes you have three at that turn on Turnpike Lane.
But you have an automatic reset for the second and third if
they've not taken them past the debt registration stage by
filing in-time statutory declarations.
You may be able to get out of all of this at £65 a piece if
there is nothing to challenge the PCNs on.
#Post#: 65220--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: April 1, 2025, 11:46 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> Yes you have three at that turn on Turnpike Lane.
>
> But you have an automatic reset for the second and third if
they've not taken them past the debt registration stage by
filing in-time statutory declarations.
>
> You may be able to get out of all of this at £65 a piece if
there is nothing to challenge the PCNs on.
>
--- End Quote ---
Hi stamfordman, thanks for your help so far.
Do you know what steps should I take from here onwards? Does
that look ok?
1. Pay the CDER group (£280)
2. Send a message regarding other PCNs to the haringey council
regarding issue with letters and PCN? Or pay for these too, via
their portal? £195.00 each
3. Fill out and submit 'out of time' form
#Post#: 65221--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: April 1, 2025, 11:52 am
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--- Quote from: czgm1h link ---
>
>
> can someone tell me if that is a single PCN, or three
different ones? I have not received anything for that!
>
>
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You have hidden the PCN number(s) Each PCN has a unique number -
so are the numbers identical, or different.
If different then please list them, or give the single unique
number, Please also post your VRM, and all sides of the EN (only
redact yr name & address).
EDIT:
Stamfordman's post has updated the situation for you.
You may find this link helpful
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificates-london-local-authorities-and-tfl-act-2003-london-local-autho/
2nd EDIT:
You do not pay the 2nd or 3rd PCNs, nor contact Haringey. See
the above link - once the OfR has been issued for a PCN, you can
file the form for that PCN with the TEC.
#Post#: 65222--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 1, 2025, 11:56 am
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Others will confirm but my view:
Do not repeat do not pay the two £195 charges. Call TEC tomorrow
and ask if Haringey has registered these PCNs as debts. 0300 123
1059
It's best to pay CDER and file an out of time declaration for
the £280 as you really don't want a £235 visit from them. Do not
file this without help.
I'm puzzled by the dates as by 4 Oct Haringey should have been
given your current address by DVLA and I presume they failed to
look it up again for the second two.
#Post#: 65225--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: April 1, 2025, 11:58 am
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--- Quote from: czgm1h link ---
>
>
> Hi stamfordman, thanks for your help so far.
>
> Do you know what steps should I take from here onwards? Does
that look ok?
>
> 1. Pay the CDER group (£280)
> 2. Send a message regarding other PCNs to the haringey council
regarding issue with letters and PCN? Or pay for these too, via
their portal? £195.00 each
> 3. Fill out and submit 'out of time' form
>
--- End Quote ---
P.S. The Out of Time form for the first PCN needs careful
filling in - do not send it without getting the drafte checked
over here.
The in-time forms are simpler and the process automatic.
Edit: crossed with Stamfordman.
#Post#: 65227--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: April 1, 2025, 12:13 pm
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Hi both, thanks I thought PCN number is sensitive so I hidden it
in picture but I think its ok to share:
ZN14202158 - £205 (Warrant Issued)
ZN14587347 - £195 (CC Sent)
ZN1484088A - £195 (CC Sent)
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"Please also post your VRM, and all sides of the EN (only redact
yr name & address)." - Regarding
VRM: DY11 OXJ
See attachments for EN
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I have also attached draft out of time form, if you have a
second please could you check if this is something I could
submit.
[attachment deleted by admin]
#Post#: 65231--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 1, 2025, 12:23 pm
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Have you had a previous PCN from Haringey at your old address.
Do not do anything with the PE2 yet. There are two forms - PE3
too. If you rush this you will regret it.
#Post#: 65232--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: April 1, 2025, 12:27 pm
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> Have you had a previous PCN from Haringey at your old address.
>
> Do not do anything with the PE2 yet. There are two forms - PE3
too. If you rush this you will regret it.
>
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I never went back to my old address to check for letters. I
don't know if there is anything there. It's over 1-2hr commute
so I could go there if needed, but never had a reason to visit.
Haven't done anything yet, no worries, just prepping docs and
taking notes
#Post#: 65240--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: April 1, 2025, 12:39 pm
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--- Quote ---
> I have also attached draft out of time form, if you have a
second please could you check if this is something I could
submit.
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I've a feeling that, counter-intuitively, the applicant is
L.B.Haringey, not you. But wait for the experts to comment, as I
am not one.
EDIT:
--- Quote ---
> I never went back to my old address to check for letters
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I think Stamfordman is asking if you received any PCNs from
Haringey in the past, before moving which may have caused
Haringey to log yr old address on their system.
#Post#: 65242--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: April 1, 2025, 12:47 pm
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
> [quote]I have also attached draft out of time form, if you
have a second please could you check if this is something I
could submit.
--- End Quote ---
I've a feeling that, counter-intuitively, the applicant is
L.B.Haringey, not you. But wait for the experts to comment, as I
am not one.
EDIT:
--- Quote ---
> I never went back to my old address to check for letters
--- End Quote ---
I think Stamfordman is asking if you received any PCNs from
Haringey in the past, before moving which may have caused
Haringey to log yr old address on their system.
[/quote]
I have received PCNs in the past at different addresses, but not
from Haringey. This is my first time living in this Council
area. For the duration I have been living here, I have not
received a single PCN through post. All the other letters,
including council tax is arriving in the post just fine.
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