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#Post#: 65185--------------------------------------------------
Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: April 1, 2025, 10:08 am
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Hello,
I am posting this here as have been advised from Reddit.
My original message:
--- Quote ---
> Today I received a notice of enforcement from CDER group with
details as stated:
>
> Type of debt: Penalty Charge Notice
>
> Contravention Date: 04/10/2024
>
> Warrant issue Date: 26/03/2025
>
> Other details: 50(R) Performing a prohibited turn (no right
turn)
>
> This was apparently couple months ago.
>
> I have NOT received a single letter/email prior to this with
regards to above penalty.
>
> It mentions total amount owed is £280.00
>
> I am very conflicted because as far as I understand because
you meant to receive a notice before they send enforcement
agents.
>
> What is the best course of action now? Can I challenge this?
And who should I contact- the council that says I owe the money
to or contact enforcement agents??? I don't even know if its
something I did, Can I ask to see their evidence of that?
>
> I feel I'm being punished severely and they did no
communication with me at all, and just throw enforcement agents
at me. Please help
>
> This is England, London
--- End Quote ---
I would like to add dates:
Move in to new address: 01/09/2024
V5C Address Change: Application made on: 01/09/2024
Contravention Date: 04/10/2024
NOTE: I have not received V5C after 14 days from the
application, I called them and they send replacement and I
received that one.
#Post#: 65189--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 1, 2025, 10:24 am
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What is the reference date on the V5C - the date of the last
logbook change.
No doubt the PCN etc went to your old address.
With dates so close you have a good chance of getting the
enforcement rescinded.
What London council is it.
£280 = £130 PCN + £65 charge certificate + £10 debt registration
+ £75 enforcement fee
If they visit you that adds £235 so we recommend paying and
filing an out of time application which may succeed here in
getting the extra fees struck off but not the PCN.
#Post#: 65198--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: April 1, 2025, 10:45 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> What is the reference date on the V5C - the date of the last
logbook change.
>
> No doubt the PCN etc went to your old address.
>
> With dates so close you have a good chance of getting the
enforcement rescinded.
>
> What London council is it.
>
> £280 = £130 PCN + £65 charge certificate + £10 debt
registration + £75 enforcement fee
>
> If they visit you that adds £235 so we recommend paying and
filing an out of time application which may succeed here in
getting the extra fees struck off but not the PCN.
>
--- End Quote ---
Reference date on V5c is 14 09 24 - I can see this in Change my
name or address, or both. section
This is haringey council of London
here is fee breakdown:
Debt: £205.00
Compliance stage fee: £75.00
Total amount owed: £280.00
I tried calling the council regarding PCN but all the options on
the smartphone direct you to their website, so no human
interaction at all.
Do you suggest I visit the council in person? They close today
at 5pm so probably tomorrow.
Is there a link to this `out of time application`? I already
sent a complaint to the council explaining the situation
#Post#: 65201--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 1, 2025, 10:55 am
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What is the car VRM - I just want to double check.
It looks like you've done everything right bar setting up mail
forwarding.
The process involves an out of time statutory declaration and
initially goes to the Traffic Enforcement Centre.
#Post#: 65203--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: April 1, 2025, 11:05 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> What is the car VRM - I just want to double check.
>
> It looks like you've done everything right bar setting up mail
forwarding.
>
> The process involves an out of time statutory declaration and
initially goes to the Traffic Enforcement Centre.
>
--- End Quote ---
Car VRM is DY11 OXJ, white Polo :)
#Post#: 65209--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 1, 2025, 11:22 am
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Date of last V5C (logbook) issued: 14 September 2024
So looks like there was a mistake at DVLA and they backdated it
if the contravention was 4 October 2024 - do you have the PCN
number?
And are the name and address on the current V5C correct?
#Post#: 65211--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: April 1, 2025, 11:26 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> Date of last V5C (logbook) issued: 14 September 2024
>
> So looks like there was a mistake at DVLA and they backdated
it if the contravention was 4 October 2024 - do you have the PCN
number?
>
> And are the name and address on the current V5C correct?
>
--- End Quote ---
Unfortunately I have no other documents, No PCN to check any
evidence, nothing. This notice of enforcement is the first thing
that arrived this morning and I have learnt about that there is
PCN.
Yes the name and address is correct on my current V5C
#Post#: 65212--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: April 1, 2025, 11:29 am
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--- Quote from: czgm1h link ---
>
> [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=5757.msg65209#msg65209
date=1743524560]
> Date of last V5C (logbook) issued: 14 September 2024
>
> So looks like there was a mistake at DVLA and they backdated
it if the contravention was 4 October 2024 - do you have the PCN
number?
>
> And are the name and address on the current V5C correct?
>
--- End Quote ---
Unfortunately I have no other documents, No PCN to check any
evidence, nothing. This notice of enforcement is the first thing
that arrived this morning and I have learnt about that there is
PCN.
Yes the name and address is correct on my current V5C
[/quote]
Hang on, the reference number on notice of enforcement seems to
be the PCN number
#Post#: 65213--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: April 1, 2025, 11:30 am
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--- Quote from: czgm1h link ---
>
> [quote author=czgm1h link=topic=5757.msg65211#msg65211
date=1743524818]
> [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=5757.msg65209#msg65209
date=1743524560]
> Date of last V5C (logbook) issued: 14 September 2024
>
> So looks like there was a mistake at DVLA and they backdated
it if the contravention was 4 October 2024 - do you have the PCN
number?
>
> And are the name and address on the current V5C correct?
>
--- End Quote ---
Unfortunately I have no other documents, No PCN to check any
evidence, nothing. This notice of enforcement is the first thing
that arrived this morning and I have learnt about that there is
PCN.
Yes the name and address is correct on my current V5C
[/quote]
Hang on, the reference number on notice of enforcement seems to
be the PCN number
[/quote]
I can see 3 total contraventions I am confused!!!!
#Post#: 65215--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enforcement Letter without Correspondence
DIR By: czgm1h
Date: April 1, 2025, 11:35 am
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--- Quote from: czgm1h link ---
>
> [quote author=czgm1h link=topic=5757.msg65212#msg65212
date=1743524974]
> [quote author=czgm1h link=topic=5757.msg65211#msg65211
date=1743524818]
> [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=5757.msg65209#msg65209
date=1743524560]
> Date of last V5C (logbook) issued: 14 September 2024
>
> So looks like there was a mistake at DVLA and they backdated
it if the contravention was 4 October 2024 - do you have the PCN
number?
>
> And are the name and address on the current V5C correct?
>
--- End Quote ---
Unfortunately I have no other documents, No PCN to check any
evidence, nothing. This notice of enforcement is the first thing
that arrived this morning and I have learnt about that there is
PCN.
Yes the name and address is correct on my current V5C
[/quote]
Hang on, the reference number on notice of enforcement seems to
be the PCN number
[/quote]
I can see 3 total contraventions I am confused!!!!
[/quote]
can someone tell me if that is a single PCN, or three different
ones? I have not received anything for that!
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