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#Post#: 67361--------------------------------------------------
Re: Double charge of speeding and failing to provide information
on the driver
DIR By: JustLoveCars
Date: April 16, 2025, 7:49 am
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For any meaningful response you'll need to post exactly what was
said. I note the advice was to simply mention the plea offer.
It's quite possible the 'defence' has compromised the plea deal
if it puts the driver identity in doubt. (The prosecution may
not be minded to allow the deal and will take the s172 to trial)
#Post#: 67362--------------------------------------------------
Re: Double charge of speeding and failing to provide information
on the driver
DIR By: AntonyMMM
Date: April 16, 2025, 8:14 am
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--- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
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> [quote]on the balance of probabilities, I have may have been
more likely to have been driving the vehicle at the time of the
offence,
--- End Quote ---
Then she cannot negotiate the "deal" (to plead guilty to
speeding if the other charge is dropped). That is only available
to her if she was driving.
[/quote]
This was the first advice you were given - if she wrote
something along the lines of "I can't really be sure who was
driving, it may well have been my husband, but I will plead
guilty to speeding if the s172 charge is dropped" ( or words to
that effect), then there was no realistic chance of the deal
being accepted and she really has no option but to defend the
s172 in court.
That is why knowing exactly what was written is so important.
#Post#: 67376--------------------------------------------------
Re: Double charge of speeding and failing to provide information
on the driver
DIR By: Freecall
Date: April 16, 2025, 9:07 am
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--- Quote from: helpneeded1 link ---
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> I just ask that any advice be quite specific, as I don't want
to make mistakes in this process.....
>
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Specifically, at this stage, you need to attend court early and
speak with the prosecutor.
It may be surprising to some but ultimately they are not there
to try and catch you out and generally will be helpful.
They do have a job to do of course, which is to prosecute
offences, but this does not mean that they do not have a wider
remit of being public servants.
Also, although on here these things are often shorthanded to
doing a 'deal', it is not really a matter of being some sort of
deal but rather a matter of CPS policy.
Go along and see what happens, you can always change your plea
if appropriate.
#Post#: 67378--------------------------------------------------
Re: Double charge of speeding and failing to provide information
on the driver
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: April 16, 2025, 9:14 am
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> Go along and see what happens, you can always change your plea
if appropriate.
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Bear in mind that it is your wife who will have to do this.
#Post#: 67397--------------------------------------------------
Re: Double charge of speeding and failing to provide information
on the driver
DIR By: Freecall
Date: April 16, 2025, 10:30 am
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--- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
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> [quote]Go along and see what happens, you can always change
your plea if appropriate.
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Bear in mind that it is your wife who will have to do this.
[/quote]
Sorry, my bad.
Difficult to keep up sometimes. :)
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