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Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !!
DIR By: Bear1982
Date: March 23, 2025, 1:19 pm
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--- Quote from: Enceladus link ---
>
> You've mentioned driving a Motability car.
>
> If so you can request a copy of the V5c for the Motability car
using the form here
HTML https://www.motability.co.uk/get-support/contact/request-v5c/
or
by logging into your online account.
>
> These days they'll probably email a copy of the electronic
DVLA registration record rather than a photocopy the original
V5c. And the email will be a lot quicker.
>
> As suggested earlier I strongly suspect that you didn't update
your address with Motability in 2023. So all of the statutory
notices have been posted to an out of date address.
>
> Motability always keep the V5c original however the notices
won't have gone directly to Motability. The DVLA will have your
original name and address suffixed with Motability's fleet
number. That's the address you supplied when the car was
registered.
>
> Please post up the three Notices of Enforcement that you have
received.
>
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Hi, I’ve removed my address and registration for obvious reasons
but here’s the 3 letters …
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#Post#: 63856--------------------------------------------------
Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !!
DIR By: coffee pot
Date: March 23, 2025, 1:36 pm
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Can you please send them again, both sides, and readable? Those
are very poor quality and unreadable. All you redact is your
name and address, leave the registration plate.
#Post#: 63857--------------------------------------------------
Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !!
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: March 23, 2025, 1:44 pm
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--- Quote from: Bear1982 link ---
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> ..... The V5 is with motability but on checking my details,
they do have my correct address as I notified them prior to
moving.
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So it's your position that you informed Motability of your new
address in November 2023 or shortly thereafter and in any event
that was before the dates of the three alleged contraventions?
It certainly helps your case if you have evidence to show that
you informed Motability promptly of your change of address. That
would mean that Motability failed to update the fleet record
with the DVLA.
How did you check your details with Motability? And might it be
that you informed Motability of your new address after March
2024? When exactly did you inform Motability of the change of
address, you would have received an email acknowledgement.
I'm not being negative or difficult. I'm merely trying to
establish all of the facts that brought you here.
#Post#: 63864--------------------------------------------------
Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !!
DIR By: Bear1982
Date: March 23, 2025, 2:30 pm
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--- Quote from: coffee pot link ---
>
> Can you please send them again, both sides, and readable?
Those are very poor quality and unreadable. All you redact is
your name and address, leave the registration plate.
>
--- End Quote ---
Hey, I had to upload these elsewhere as it kept telling me my
file size was too big. Please note on back of letter it says
contact by 21st I was away in Scotland and didn’t even know of
the letters until my return yesterday.
HTML https://files.fm/u/swygjt3ed6
#Post#: 63865--------------------------------------------------
Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !!
DIR By: Bear1982
Date: March 23, 2025, 2:31 pm
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--- Quote from: Enceladus link ---
>
> [quote author=Bear1982 link=topic=5642.msg63849#msg63849
date=1742752734]
> ..... The V5 is with motability but on checking my details,
they do have my correct address as I notified them prior to
moving.
--- End Quote ---
So it's your position that you informed Motability of your new
address in November 2023 or shortly thereafter and in any event
that was before the dates of the three alleged contraventions?
It certainly helps your case if you have evidence to show that
you informed Motability promptly of your change of address. That
would mean that Motability failed to update the fleet record
with the DVLA.
How did you check your details with Motability? And might it be
that you informed Motability of your new address after March
2024? When exactly did you inform Motability of the change of
address, you would have received an email acknowledgement.
I'm not being negative or difficult. I'm merely trying to
establish all of the facts that brought you here.
[/quote]
Yes I definitely remember changing address prior to moving so
pre 2024
#Post#: 63896--------------------------------------------------
Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !!
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 23, 2025, 7:37 pm
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--- Quote from: Bear1982 link ---
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> [quote author=Enceladus link=topic=5642.msg63857#msg63857
date=1742755443]
> [quote author=Bear1982 link=topic=5642.msg63849#msg63849
date=1742752734]
> ..... The V5 is with motability but on checking my details,
they do have my correct address as I notified them prior to
moving.
--- End Quote ---
So it's your position that you informed Motability of your new
address in November 2023 or shortly thereafter and in any event
that was before the dates of the three alleged contraventions?
It certainly helps your case if you have evidence to show that
you informed Motability promptly of your change of address. That
would mean that Motability failed to update the fleet record
with the DVLA.
How did you check your details with Motability? And might it be
that you informed Motability of your new address after March
2024? When exactly did you inform Motability of the change of
address, you would have received an email acknowledgement.
I'm not being negative or difficult. I'm merely trying to
establish all of the facts that brought you here.
[/quote]
Yes I definitely remember changing address prior to moving so
pre 2024
[/quote]
OK, but all the statutory documents which are sent out for the
three PCNs failed to arrive at your address, (PCN, Charge
Certificate and Order for Recovery), a total of 9 in all. So for
me, that indicates a problem with your address. You really do
need to find out from Motobility what address they held for you
and which was on their V5s for the car, when the contraventions
occurred. If you can show you acted promptly when moving house,
then you are much more likely to succeed with a Statutory
Declaration, because they will be Out-of-Time, so subject to
challenge by the council.
#Post#: 63900--------------------------------------------------
Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !!
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: March 23, 2025, 11:10 pm
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--- Quote from: Bear1982 link ---
>
> [quote author=coffee pot link=topic=5642.msg63856#msg63856
date=1742754994]
> Can you please send them again, both sides, and readable?
Those are very poor quality and unreadable. All you redact is
your name and address, leave the registration plate.
>
--- End Quote ---
Hey, I had to upload these elsewhere as it kept telling me my
file size was too big. Please note on back of letter it says
contact by 21st I was away in Scotland and didn’t even know of
the letters until my return yesterday.
HTML https://files.fm/u/swygjt3ed6
[/quote]
You haven't reinstated the vehicle reg. Please do so now. All as
per the READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING YOUR CASE!**
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/msg3/#msg3<br
/>sticky post at the top of this Forum.
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