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       #Post#: 63757--------------------------------------------------
       3 Penalty charges received - please help !! 
   DIR By: Bear1982
       Date: March 22, 2025, 3:40 pm
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       Hi all,
       Just returned back home to Swansea S.Wales to 3x notices of
       enforcement for allegedly driving a prohibited motor vehicle
       (car) down a road called crystal glen in Cardiff which
       apparently non locals aren't allowed to drive on without being
       fined!!
       I'd never heard of this contravention before receiving this
       notice of enforcement and never received any prior
       correspondence (maybe sent to my old address, but the
       contravention occurred in March 2024 and I've been at my new
       address since November 2023?!) nor did I have any clue
       whatsoever about this ridiculously crazy rule about crystal
       glen!!
       Please help what can I do to challenge this, will TEC even give
       a damn, how can I prove i didn't receive there original PCN's if
       the council tell me they sent them then that's game over right?!
       I'm freaking out here over bailiff visits, l've seen on Youtube
       them attending with the police, I have autism, I'm disabled it's
       a motability vehicle and I was picking up my sister to take her
       to Costco who lives near this stupid road! Now I'm potentially
       going lose everything over 3 lots of £190 (plus eventual bailiff
       charges!)
       #Post#: 63761--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !! 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: March 22, 2025, 4:18 pm
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       --- Quote ---
       > maybe sent to my old address, but the contravention occurred
       in March 2024 and I've been at my new address since November
       2023?!)
       --- End Quote ---
       So who has the V5C Registration Certificate for the vehicle ? If
       you have it, check the address on it, because that is where all
       the statutory documents are sent. If Motobility hold the V5C,
       did you tell them of you change of address back in November
       2023.
       Most cases we see on here where bailiffs are "at the door", are
       due to the OP not updating their V5 when they move address.
       #Post#: 63773--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !! 
   DIR By: disgruntchelt
       Date: March 23, 2025, 3:48 am
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       Did you put mail redirection in place? And if yes how long for?
       #Post#: 63774--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !! 
   DIR By: coffee pot
       Date: March 23, 2025, 4:33 am
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       #Post#: 63777--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !! 
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: March 23, 2025, 5:35 am
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       IMO,
       OP, pl get away from the contravention, it's not relevant at
       present.
       Pay what's demanded on the NoEs.
       Sorry, I know it's hard but starting from where you are it's the
       only way to limit your damages.
       Pl don't procrastinate on this issue because it simply eats up
       precious time.
       If the enforcement agent won't accept payment at the NoE level
       then come back here.
       If you don't pay and you do not succeed in having TEC reset the
       matter then a further £235 would be added to the debt. But if
       you do succeed, then you get the money back.
       Once you've taken control of time then come back here.
       #Post#: 63787--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !! 
   DIR By: northwalian
       Date: March 23, 2025, 6:44 am
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       --- Quote from: coffee pot link ---
       >
       >
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       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The other end of this restriction appears to be both junctions
       of Fishguard Road with Ty Glas. The "access only" restriction
       contains a "Shopping Centre". Is that normal?
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       #Post#: 63791--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !! 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: March 23, 2025, 7:39 am
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       --- Quote from: northwalian link ---
       >
       > [quote author=coffee pot link=topic=5642.msg63774#msg63774
       date=1742722415]
       >
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/T7roycEP8DETCmKs7
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The other end of this restriction appears to be both junctions
       of Fishguard Road with Ty Glas. The "access only" restriction
       contains a "Shopping Centre". Is that normal?
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       [/quote]
       Sorry, but whilst this is all very nice, it is of no use unless
       you can get the process reverted to the PCN stage. At the moment
       you have no option to query the PCN.
       You have yet to answer my question on the V5C Registration
       Certificate for the vehicle. Who has it in their possession and
       what address is on it ?
       #Post#: 63797--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !! 
   DIR By: Enceladus
       Date: March 23, 2025, 8:23 am
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       You've mentioned driving a Motability car.
       If so you can request a copy of the V5c for the Motability car
       using the form here
  HTML https://www.motability.co.uk/get-support/contact/request-v5c/
       or
       by logging into your online account.
       These days they'll probably email a copy of the electronic DVLA
       registration record rather than a photocopy the original V5c.
       And the email will be a lot quicker.
       As suggested earlier I strongly suspect that you didn't update
       your address with Motability in 2023. So all of the statutory
       notices have been posted to an out of date address.
       Motability always keep the V5c original however the notices
       won't have gone directly to Motability. The DVLA will have your
       original name and address suffixed with Motability's fleet
       number. That's the address you supplied when the car was
       registered.
       Please post up the three Notices of Enforcement that you have
       received.
       #Post#: 63811--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !! 
   DIR By: northwalian
       Date: March 23, 2025, 10:36 am
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       >
       > Sorry, but whilst this is all very nice, it is of no use
       unless you can get the process reverted to the PCN stage. At the
       moment you have no option to query the PCN.
       >
       > You have yet to answer my question on the V5C Registration
       Certificate for the vehicle. Who has it in their possession and
       what address is on it ?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well, apologies. I wasn't the OP I was just curious.
       I'll leave you to it.
       #Post#: 63849--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3 Penalty charges received - please help !! 
   DIR By: Bear1982
       Date: March 23, 2025, 12:58 pm
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       > [quote]maybe sent to my old address, but the contravention
       occurred in March 2024 and I've been at my new address since
       November 2023?!)
       --- End Quote ---
       So who has the V5C Registration Certificate for the vehicle ? If
       you have it, check the address on it, because that is where all
       the statutory documents are sent. If Motobility hold the V5C,
       did you tell them of you change of address back in November
       2023.
       Most cases we see on here where bailiffs are "at the door", are
       due to the OP not updating their V5 when they move address.
       [/quote]
       Hi sorry for the late reply, been stressing myself like mad. The
       V5 is with motability but on checking my details, they do have
       my correct address as I notified them prior to moving.
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