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31J Entering & stopping in box junction - Greenwich,
Blackwall Lane Junction
DIR By: rhughes
Date: March 22, 2025, 5:57 am
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Hello, I'd appreciate your advice on what the tribunal is likely
to rule on this. I received a PCN for stopping in a yellow box
at the junction of Blackwall Lane and Salutation Road.
The video does show that I stop, but that I clearly could have
exited if I needed to - I was just leaving a bit of space behind
the car in front and was not blocking anyone. It seems
reasonably clear to me that there was no offence committed as
the exit was clear when I entered the box, yet Greenwich seem to
be deliberately misinterpreting Rule 174 of the Highway Code by
saying that the offence was stopping in the box.
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Re: 31J Entering & stopping in box junction - Greenwich,
Blackwall Lane Junction
DIR By: rhughes
Date: March 22, 2025, 5:59 am
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Greenwich's rejection of my initial appeal. In this they appear
to acknowledge that the exit was clear when I entered the box
and claim that the offence was stopping. That's wrong, isn't it?
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Re: 31J Entering & stopping in box junction - Greenwich,
Blackwall Lane Junction
DIR By: rhughes
Date: March 22, 2025, 6:01 am
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Photo they provided as evidence, which the video (next reply)
shows to have been taken at a time when the car was clearly
still moving.
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Re: 31J Entering & stopping in box junction - Greenwich,
Blackwall Lane Junction
DIR By: rhughes
Date: March 22, 2025, 6:03 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjvKVrRJqIM
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Re: 31J Entering & stopping in box junction - Greenwich,
Blackwall Lane Junction
DIR By: rhughes
Date: March 22, 2025, 6:05 am
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The video does show that I stop for 5 seconds at the end - my
contention is that there is more than enough space for me to
move out of the box. I chose to stop rather than being forced
to, and as far as I can see, there is no law against that.
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Re: 31J Entering & stopping in box junction - Greenwich,
Blackwall Lane Junction
DIR By: rhughes
Date: March 22, 2025, 7:24 am
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Oh, I am not sure if the images uploaded correctly. Here they
are again:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/AA2VRHV
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Re: 31J Entering & stopping in box junction - Greenwich,
Blackwall Lane Junction
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 22, 2025, 4:03 pm
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The contravention is "....has to stop due to the presence of
stationary vehicles". You did not have to stop, although why you
stopped in the box is a bit of a mystery to me.
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Re: 31J Entering & stopping in box junction - Greenwich,
Blackwall Lane Junction
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: March 23, 2025, 10:40 am
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Happy to be your free tribunal rep. Email mrmustard@zoho.com
with the unredacted rejection and I will send an authority
letter for signature
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