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#Post#: 63307--------------------------------------------------
Hackney - Code 23 - Parked in a parking place or area not
designated for that class of vehicle
DIR By: Fightback
Date: March 19, 2025, 5:41 pm
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Hi
Received a PCN for parking in a bay that I thought was
unrestricted outside of permit hours. Did not realise that the
bay is actually reserved for motorbikes at all times. Thought
after 12 it was all good to park there due to the signage.
Is there any basis to challenge the PCN?
HTML https://imgur.com/a/mUlrjNx
Location:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/seGjunBskzSM6V4T9
Thanks!
#Post#: 63317--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney - Code 23 - Parked in a parking place or area not
designated for that class of vehicle
DIR By: Fightback
Date: March 19, 2025, 6:54 pm
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Just a quick q - is the suffix required for contravention code
23? Or is that not required on a PCN.
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Re: Hackney - Parked in a parking place or area not designated
for that class of vehicle
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 19, 2025, 6:58 pm
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Frankly, I cannot see much to base a representation upon at the
moment.
Assuming the GSV view dated October 2024 is still correct, then,
starting from the first bay at the road junction, it is for
loading-only, and with no days or times, applies 24x7.
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/2GxMh3p1PqwfLKZQ7
Then there is a bay divider, (the double-dashed lines
perpendicular to the kerb) for another bay, which has a rather
badly located sign, although not badly enough to win an
adjudication, I fear.
Looking at the sign for this quite small bay it shows that it is
exclusively for motorcycles, but with a restriction applying
Mon-Fri 10am to Noon, involving payment or display of permit.
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/QjeC9LLGSF8TznKt6
The sign for the third bay, which is quite long, is some yards
away: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/2GxMh3p1PqwfLKZQ7
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Re: Hackney - Code 23 - Parked in a parking place or area not
designated for that class of vehicle
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: March 20, 2025, 4:50 am
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See also this case which has some similarity. I think the sign
should say solo m/c only and the bay should have a road legend.
Hackney has been adding new m/c bays at the same time as
introducing pay for parking for m/c.
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/hackney-council-pcn-for-parking-in-a-newly-created-motorcycle-bay/
As for the PCN, the wording doesn't tell you what class should
be there as you say, not even with a suffix.
Mary Harding is your friend.
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QtmX9lLTLTQx6uRa9NDzJvfXcJuhzylV/view
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Re: Hackney - Code 23 - Parked in a parking place or area not
designated for that class of vehicle
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 20, 2025, 5:55 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> See also this case which has some similarity. I think the sign
should say solo m/c only and the bay should have a road legend.
> Hackney has been adding new m/c bays at the same time as
introducing pay for parking for m/c.
>
>
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/hackney-council-pcn-for-parking-in-a-newly-created-motorcycle-bay/
>
> As for the PCN, the wording doesn't tell you what class should
be there as you say, not even with a suffix.
>
> Mary Harding is your friend.
>
>
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QtmX9lLTLTQx6uRa9NDzJvfXcJuhzylV/view
>
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Good suggestion. A "technical" appeal from 2016
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Re: Hackney - Code 23 - Parked in a parking place or area not
designated for that class of vehicle
DIR By: Fightback
Date: March 20, 2025, 12:14 pm
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Thanks - So is it best to appeal based on the technicality on
the PCN rather than argue re the sign. Just looked at the
council evidence online, it does have the picture of the sign so
does that nullify the argument?
Or should I draft up an appeal and include both points.
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