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       Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the windshield?!
   DIR By: pepipoo_is_gone
       Date: March 18, 2025, 4:17 pm
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       Have a ground 23 (Parked in a parking place or area not
       designated for that class of vehicle) PCN, where the evidence
       images on the council website show the car with the yellow
       ticket already on the windshield. Is this a ground that could be
       used to dispute the ticket? Everything else about the PCN looks
       fine. Many thanks!
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       Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the
       windshield?!
   DIR By: MrChips
       Date: March 18, 2025, 4:26 pm
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       What do you mean by 'already'?
       Post up the PCN please.
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       Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the
       windshield?!
   DIR By: disgruntchelt
       Date: March 18, 2025, 4:27 pm
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       Only if the timestamp of the photo is before the pcn issue
       time.  It’s more likely the evidence is to show the pcn was
       actually served.
       #Post#: 63133--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the
       windshield?!
   DIR By: pepipoo_is_gone
       Date: March 18, 2025, 4:35 pm
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       The photo timestamp is 1 minute after the PCN issue... sounds
       like that's how its meant to be?
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       Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the
       windshield?!
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: March 18, 2025, 4:38 pm
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       If you want help read this.
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
       #Post#: 63142--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the
       windshield?!
   DIR By: pepipoo_is_gone
       Date: March 18, 2025, 4:47 pm
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       Thank you for pointing me to that! Here are full details:
       Council: Brent
       Contravention: 232 (Parked in a parking place or area not
       designated for that class of vehicle)
       Location: Lakeside Drive Loading Bay
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/hwmKzNDc4ET6wGS97
       [PCN LINK
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VCsKtaUZlCiPZAn3ZHuUSjJy8Plpejhs/view?usp=drive_link]
       #Post#: 63145--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the
       windshield?!
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: March 18, 2025, 4:53 pm
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       Bay is for goods vehicle loading only, and with no times or
       days, applies 24x7. So why did you parkethere ? Did you just
       chance your arm a CEO wouldn't turn up, or is there something
       more serious we could maybe use.
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       Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the
       windshield?!
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: March 18, 2025, 4:55 pm
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       The code is 232, where the last 2 means goods loading bay, so
       the PCN does go some way to describing the contravention.
       Without the suffix there have been cases won as the wording
       doesn't say what exactly you did wrong.
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