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#Post#: 5483--------------------------------------------------
Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St
E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
DIR By: unpresidented16
Date: September 19, 2023, 12:07 pm
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SO I exited the A13 and did a u-turn to go under the overpass
towards freemasons road. There is a no u-turn sign but I've been
doing it for 4 years no without an issue but it seems recently
they added a camera there and unfortunately I got caught out. I
was just wondering if it would be possible to appeal it or do I
bite the bullet and take the L.
Street view:
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Video:
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#Post#: 5488--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St
E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: September 19, 2023, 1:17 pm
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With two very prominent "No U-Turn" signs, I can't see any
possible argument against the contravention itself, but the PCN
may contain fatal errors so post it. No doubt the camera was
added because rather too many people were U-turning here and
endangering other road users.
#Post#: 5492--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St
E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
DIR By: unpresidented16
Date: September 19, 2023, 1:29 pm
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Pcn was attached as file but i will add it as imgur link soon
#Post#: 5578--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St
E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 20, 2023, 4:46 pm
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I've requested the traffic management order, in the meantime you
should make a plea for discretion in order to preserve the
discount. Post a draft on here in the first instance.
#Post#: 5637--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St
E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
DIR By: unpresidented16
Date: September 21, 2023, 7:33 am
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How's this:
Dear London Borough of Newham
On the day of the contravention I entered newbarn st via A13 and
realised I took the wrong exit as I needed the next exit (prince
regent lane). The weather conditions on that day was very sunny
and I had my sun visor down and have missed the "no u-turn"
sign. As this is my very first PCN from yourselves, I would ask
you to exercise your discretion on this occasion. I realise the
importance of such signage and going forward I will be more
attentive to my surroundings before performing such actions.
Yours faithfully
#Post#: 5737--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St
E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 21, 2023, 6:41 pm
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As a general reminder, making a false representation is a
criminal offence
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/schedule/1/paragraph/8/enacted.<br
/>While you do not have to incriminate yourself, you can't say
that you took the wrong exit if this isn't the case. If you've
been taking this route for 4 years without issue it seems
implausible that you took the wrong exit, it also seems you knew
about the no u-turn signs so you can't say that you missed them
as you knew they were there.
With that in mind, I think you'll have to trim your
representation by deleting the part before "As this is...".
As the only purpose of this representation is to buy time, what
is left will suffice.
#Post#: 5741--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St
E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
DIR By: unpresidented16
Date: September 21, 2023, 8:01 pm
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Good point, I will trim it down as you suggested. Thanks
#Post#: 7539--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St
E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 16, 2023, 10:37 am
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Here is The Newham (Prescribed Routes) (No 2) Traffic Order 2012
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1WPeYa9ekyg6hd5jSj2t4-zqDoa0VjlNQ,<br
/>let us know when you have a response from the council and
we'll
see if there's anything that warrants taking this further.
#Post#: 7541--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St
E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
DIR By: unpresidented16
Date: October 16, 2023, 11:10 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> Here is The Newham (Prescribed Routes) (No 2) Traffic Order
2012
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1WPeYa9ekyg6hd5jSj2t4-zqDoa0VjlNQ,<br
/>let us know when you have a response from the council and
we'll
see if there's anything that warrants taking this further.
>
--- End Quote ---
Will do, thanks CP appreciate it 🙏🏻
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Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St
E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
DIR By: guest17
Date: October 16, 2023, 5:02 pm
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I would expect to see camera signs at this location but there
doesn't appear to be any.
Mike
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