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TfL Penalty Charge Notice (GX19416962) Appealed, no response,
now Enforcement notice received
DIR By: Razz
Date: March 18, 2025, 6:58 am
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Hi [member=1]cp8759[/member] and the team,
On January 24th of this year, I received a Penalty Charge Notice
(PCN) for parking my electric vehicle on a red route to charge
it at the fastest available charger in the area. The
contravention occurred outside 34 Christchurch Road SW1 on
October 20th, 2024, at 09:55, and the outstanding amount is
£240. There is a sign indicating that the space is reserved for
electric taxis for one hour, but my PCN was issued by a static
enforcement camera. I appealed the notice, explaining that my
car was running out of charge and I had to charge it for an hour
and seven minutes in an emergency. Unfortunately, I was unaware
of the sign and that the space was not supposed to be available
to the public.
I did not receive any rejection notification via email or post,
despite checking my spam folder. When I called TfL, I was
informed that nothing could be done, the discount period was
lost, and I would have to pay the full amount of £240. I
inquired about appealing and was told to wait for an "order of
recovery," which would include a form I need to complete.
There seems to be a pattern developing where somehow the letter
of rejection is not received either via email or post. This is
the second time it has happened to me.
I am seeking advice on what to do next, as I do not want to lose
the discount period. I am willing to pay £80.
Thank you for your help.
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Re: TfL Penalty Charge Notice (GX19416962) Appealed, no
response, now Enforcement notice received
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 18, 2025, 7:23 am
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Sorry, but we need a load more information. So please read this
and update your thread accordingly: -
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
All sides of PCN, plus the notice from, (I assume), the
bailiffs.
Is the name and address on your V5C Registration Certificate for
the vehicle up-to-date and the same as when the alleged
contravention occurred ?
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Re: TfL Penalty Charge Notice (GX19416962) Appealed, no
response, now Enforcement notice received
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 18, 2025, 8:00 am
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As above, you need to show us the actual PCN and all other
paperwork you have received. This might be an easy one but
you're very short on time, so please try and get back to us
today.
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Re: TfL Penalty Charge Notice (GX19416962) Appealed, no
response, now Enforcement notice received
DIR By: Razz
Date: March 18, 2025, 8:22 am
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Thank you so much for all your responses.
Sorry I did not attached the PCN, I dont have the original PCN
but I have attached the PCN that shows the new £240 charge. I
have attached the confirmation receipt for my appeal
representation.
I have received three correspondences from TfL;
1. The original PCN (see screenshots)
2. Email receipt that I have appealed and the PCN and 14 days
discount period is on hold
3. Another letter to say the PCN is now £240 because I did pay
the original fine but I did not receive any email or letter to
say my appeal has been rejected.
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Re: TfL Penalty Charge Notice (GX19416962) Appealed, no
response, now Enforcement notice received
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 18, 2025, 9:16 am
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OK, thanks. So is the name and address on the Charge Certificate
correct and the same as on the V5C Registration Certificate ?
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Re: TfL Penalty Charge Notice (GX19416962) Appealed, no
response, now Enforcement notice received
DIR By: Razz
Date: March 18, 2025, 9:28 am
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Yes, I am sorry I missed that.
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Re: TfL Penalty Charge Notice (GX19416962) Appealed, no
response, now Enforcement notice received
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: March 18, 2025, 9:45 am
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OP, this is pretty standard fare. It's a parking contravention
therefore this procedure applies:
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/parking-penalty-charge-notice-enforcement-process
You're at the Charge Certificate stage. Nothing can happen until
the 14-day period has elapsed (last day is 30 March). After this
the only procedural route open to the authority is to issue an
Order for Recovery.
To fast-forward.....ultimately the matter would be referred to
the adjudicator for their directions which would include you
providing evidence that you submitted formal reps in-time and in
due form to TfL. Once the adjudicator is satisfied on this point
the case would be listed as an appeal. (it's an odd quirk that
even when the authority advise the adjudicator that a NOR was
sent they still seem to want to see the reps despite their
submission not being in dispute!).
So IMO all you can do in the interim is to keep your eye on
their website post 30 March to see when the amount outstanding
increases to £250 at which point this tells you that an Order
for Recovery has been issued. You're allowed 21 days in which to
respond to the Traffic Enforcement Centre, so no rush, just come
back here when you see £250 on the scoreboard.
You should also dig out your reps pl.
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Re: TfL Penalty Charge Notice (GX19416962) Appealed, no
response, now Enforcement notice received
DIR By: Razz
Date: March 18, 2025, 9:50 am
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Thank you. I will do that.
Best
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Re: TfL Penalty Charge Notice (GX19416962) Appealed, no
response, now Enforcement notice received
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 18, 2025, 1:19 pm
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[member=4837]Razz[/member] while H C Andersen is not wrong,
there's a much quicker and easier way to deal with this. We know
a notice of rejection was issued on 6 February, because the TFL
website says so:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/rH4QNZ7.png
In the circumstances, the quickest and easiest way to deal with
this is to file an out of time appeal with London Tribunals.
The first step is to make a subject access request to
dpo@tfl.gov.uk asking for a copy of the notice of rejection to
be emailed to you, remember you will need to attach either a
copy of your ID or proof of address. You don't need to get the
response before you can file an appeal, but it's best to get the
ball rolling just in case you need it later.
In the meantime I'll drop you a PM in case you'd like me to help
you with the out of time application to the tribunal. Assuming
the tribunal agrees to consider the case, the email from the
tribunal confirming that your appeal will be heard has the
effect of cancelling the charge certificate, and this saves you
having to faff about with TEC, or going to have forms sworn, or
waiting for weeks and weeks for TEC to process them and then for
TFL to refer the case to the tribunal.
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Re: TfL Penalty Charge Notice (GX19416962) Appealed, no
response, now Enforcement notice received
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: May 9, 2025, 6:13 am
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DNC'ed with no TEC involvement.
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