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       #Post#: 62998--------------------------------------------------
       Received 2 PCN for entering a bus lane in Preston, lancashire
   DIR By: Collateral
       Date: March 17, 2025, 8:06 pm
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       Hi,
       I have received 2 penalty charge notices for going through a bus
       lane, Both times the same bus lane at around a time which was
       within 5 minutes of each other, ( i was lost)
       I received a letter dates 21/02 and then another 24/02.
       They are suggested to be discounted to £35 each - which i was
       going to go ahead and pay. However on is £70 although it has not
       still even been 21 days on that either, they are both within the
       dates to be £35.
       I am going to call them tmrw and see what the issue is,
       However whilst i was not going to challenge it, it got me
       thinking if they can make errors on that there maybe other
       errors.
       There is now only sa few days left for the £35 to become £70 so
       not sure of worth challenging or what options i have.
       Thank you for your help
       #Post#: 62999--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received 2 PCN for entering a bus lane in Preston,
       lancashire
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: March 17, 2025, 8:15 pm
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       Sorry, but no good without some hard facts to work on, so please
       read this and update your thread accordingly: -
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       #Post#: 63001--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received 2 PCN for entering a bus lane in Preston,
       lancashire
   DIR By: Collateral
       Date: March 17, 2025, 8:50 pm
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       Thank you. Here are the 2 tickets / I have embedded them but i
       cant see them as part of the post. Please advise.
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       [img]
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       #Post#: 63006--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received 2 PCN for entering a bus lane in Preston,
       lancashire
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: March 17, 2025, 9:26 pm
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       --- Quote from: Collateral link ---
       >
       > Thank you. Here are the 2 tickets / I have embedded them but i
       cant see them as part of the post. Please advise.
       >
       >
       [img]
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       >
       >
       [img]
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       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You have to use a hosting site then post a link to it. It's in
       the instructions I posted. Forum doesn't have enough space for
       much. It means we don't have to pay a lot.
       Please also post a GSV link to the location.
       #Post#: 63009--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received 2 PCN for entering a bus lane in Preston,
       lancashire
   DIR By: Collateral
       Date: March 17, 2025, 10:50 pm
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       Will get the other link you mentioned
       #Post#: 63028--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received 2 PCN for entering a bus lane in Preston,
       lancashire
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: March 18, 2025, 6:02 am
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       See this thread:
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/34j-being-in-a-bus-lane-lancashire/
       #Post#: 63031--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received 2 PCN for entering a bus lane in Preston,
       lancashire
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: March 18, 2025, 6:10 am
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > See this thread:
       >
       >
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       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That's the location for the first PCN
       Here's the second location
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/fPxt7j2TzEfacjKS7
       Looks like the OP drove all the way up Corporation Street and
       hence passed the two bus gates.  We need to see all pages of the
       PCN to see if the same fatal errors are present. There is a
       warning about the bus gate before one gets t them: -
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/o63qKeBZbdPfEBY99
       #Post#: 63647--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received 2 PCN for entering a bus lane in Preston,
       lancashire
   DIR By: Collateral
       Date: March 21, 2025, 12:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       > [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=5584.msg63028#msg63028
       date=1742295738]
       > See this thread:
       >
       >
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       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That's the location for the first PCN
       Here's the second location
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/fPxt7j2TzEfacjKS7
       Looks like the OP drove all the way up Corporation Street and
       hence passed the two bus gates.  We need to see all pages of the
       PCN to see if the same fatal errors are present. There is a
       warning about the bus gate before one gets t them: -
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/o63qKeBZbdPfEBY99
       [/quote]
       So do you need to see the back of the PCN? As all the driver and
       pictures info is on the first page / the back is about how to
       pay the charge.
       #Post#: 63652--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received 2 PCN for entering a bus lane in Preston,
       lancashire
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: March 21, 2025, 12:16 pm
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       > So do you need to see the back of the PCN? As all the driver
       and pictures info is on the first page / the back is about how
       to pay the charge.
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes. You'd be surprised how often there are errors in the 'small
       print' which are fatal to a PCN's enforcement. Until the experts
       here have a look, they cannot spot any errors.
       #Post#: 63657--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received 2 PCN for entering a bus lane in Preston,
       lancashire
   DIR By: Collateral
       Date: March 21, 2025, 12:29 pm
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       Here are the links to the back of the PCN. Thank you.
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