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Moorside Legal - Help
DIR By: UKSM36
Date: March 17, 2025, 5:26 am
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Hi All!
I’d really be grateful if someone could help me out with this.
I was a food delivery driver back in 2022, I have received 4
different tickets from UKCPS at my new address, two of the
tickets were at one location and the other two were at another
all them were between the 16th of March - 1st of April 2022.
Now I have racked up a balance of £680 plus additional fees
which Moorside have added as always… now the amount owed is
£842.
I have tried to call the Moorside legal team reps and they were
unhelpful as after I’d told them the issue that UKCPS has no
contact number / email for me to reach out to them I have tried
on numerous occasions in 2022/2023 they advised that I’d be
receiving another 3 letters through the post I can choose to
ignore the other two which advise me to pay / direct debit and
such but the third letter will be a Letter of claim which I need
to respond to..
Could someone please tell me what “letter of claim” is and if I
need to continue to ignore the letters or if I actually need to
respond / fill out any forms they send through.
I appreciate any support in advance, I have been driving since
2014 and never had to deal with anything of the sort so I am a
newbie at this!
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Re: Moorside Legal - Help
DIR By: G6PRK
Date: March 17, 2025, 5:59 am
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Never try to talk to these people.
Yes, you should respond to a letter of claim, it's a last ditch
effort to stop them proceeding to court but even if they do, if
you follow the advice around here you'll have an extremely high
chance of success.
Do you have the original Notice to Keepers that were sent to
you? Did you appeal them or have you ignored from the start?
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Re: Moorside Legal - Help
DIR By: UKSM36
Date: March 17, 2025, 6:13 am
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To be honest I looked online at the time and the advise was to
just ignore them, I did ignore them right off the bat.
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Re: Moorside Legal - Help
DIR By: G6PRK
Date: March 17, 2025, 6:21 am
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Not sure where you got that information but for the sake of
anything in the future, there are only two places worth looking
really, here and MSE. Both advise appealing at the first stage
at the very least.
Nevermind, you are where you are now and still have a higher
than 99% chance of success.
Do you have the original NtKs still? If so, post them here with
personal information redacted.
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Re: Moorside Legal - Help
DIR By: UKSM36
Date: March 17, 2025, 6:29 am
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I don’t have them anymore truthfully, moved homes recently.
Apologies I understand it’s not a lot of help and I’m not
helping my case at all here
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Re: Moorside Legal - Help
DIR By: G6PRK
Date: March 17, 2025, 6:40 am
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No need to apologise - most have been there - just let it be a
lesson for next time!
Have a search around the forum for Moorside Legal - you will see
that on the occasions they do issue claims, their incompetence
means they fail to do so correctly and thus there's an extremely
low probability it ever goes to a hearing.
I am pasting next steps, courtesy of b789 from another thread,
which is likely to apply here. That said, it wouldn't hurt to
wait for b789 to pop up with any reflections on your case
specifically:
--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> This will never make it as far as a hearing. Moorside Legal
are so incompetent that they will issue the claim with defective
particulars. For now, respond as follows:
>
> [quote]Moorside Legal
> Jade Building
> Albion Mills
> Albion Road
> Greengates
> BD10 9TQ
>
> By email to: help@moorsidelegal.co.uk
>
> [Date]
>
> Dear Sirs,
>
> Re: Letter of Claim dated [DATE]
>
> I refer to your Letter of Claim.
>
> I confirm that my address for service at this time is as
follows:
>
> [YOUR ADDRESS]
>
> Please note that the alleged debt is disputed, and any court
proceedings will be robustly defended.
>
> I note that the sum claimed has been increased by an excessive
and unjustifiable amount, which appears contrary to the
principles established by the Government, who described such
practices as “extorting money from motorists.” Please refrain
from sending boilerplate responses or justifications regarding
this issue.
>
> Under the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims, I require
specific answers to the following questions:
>
> [indent]1. Does the additional £70 represent what you describe
as a “Debt Recovery” fee? If so, is this figure net of or
inclusive of VAT? If inclusive, I trust you will explain why I,
as the alleged debtor, am being asked to cover your client’s VAT
liability.
>
> 2. Regarding the principal sum of the alleged Parking Charge
Notice (PCN): Is this being claimed as damages for breach of
contract, or will it be pleaded as consideration for a purported
parking contract?[/indent]
>
> I would caution you against simply dismissing these questions
with vague or boilerplate responses, as I am fully aware of the
implications. By claiming that PCNs are exempt from VAT while
simultaneously inflating the debt recovery element, your client
– with your assistance – appears to be evading VAT obligations
due to HMRC. Such mendacious conduct raises serious questions
about the legality and ethics of your practices.
>
> I strongly advise your client to cease and desist. Should this
matter proceed to court, you can be assured that these issues
will be brought to the court’s attention, alongside a robust
defence and potentially a counterclaim for unreasonable conduct.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> 
[YOUR NAME]
--- End Quote ---
Save as a PDF file and attach to an email addressed to
help@moorsidelegal.co.uk and also CC in yourself.
[/quote]
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Re: Moorside Legal - Help
DIR By: UKSM36
Date: March 17, 2025, 6:44 am
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That’s great thank you, do I respond back with this template
after the letter of claim?
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Re: Moorside Legal - Help
DIR By: G6PRK
Date: March 17, 2025, 6:52 am
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Yes, that's correct. I assume your attachment in the first post
was a Letter of Claim? You cropped it below where the subject
line would be, but it looks to be one.
You respond with this now. They must reply, though their reply
will be nonsense most likely and they'll still proceed to claim.
Post their reply when it comes.
Then, post the claim form here when you receive it. It's likely
they will make a mess of the Particulars of Claim and it will
therefore easily be defended and likely never go to court.
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Re: Moorside Legal - Help
DIR By: UKSM36
Date: March 17, 2025, 7:02 am
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Ahhh no it’s not a letter of claim yet, this was the first
communication from them, the woman I spoke with from Moorside
said the letter of claim will arrive in the next few days.
I will post it here once it arrives and will update the template
accordingly and reply to them.
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Re: Moorside Legal - Help
DIR By: b789
Date: March 17, 2025, 1:00 pm
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Does Moorside Legal and UKCPS have your current address for
service of legal documents? You say that you have moved
recently. What you do not want is for either of them to have an
address that you no longer reside at.
The Letter of Claim (LoC) response provided above must not be
sent until you receive the actual LoC from Moorside Legal. What
you must do now, without delay, is send a Data Rectification
Notice (DRN) to the DPOs of both Moorside and UKCPS instructing
them to update their records with your current address for
service and to erase your old address. The highlighted words are
there for a reason... use them.
You can find the DPO email addresses on their respective
websites privacy policy. When you send the DRN, also CC in
yourself. Make sure you tell them to confirm when they have
updated their records.
What you don't want is either of these companies to hold the
wrong address or two possible addresses. That is a surefire way
of getting a CCJ by default when they use the wrong address for
service of documents.
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