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#Post#: 62391--------------------------------------------------
Congestion charge. My first received letter is final enforcement
warning
DIR By: gky
Date: March 13, 2025, 3:03 pm
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Hi everybody. When I moved home last September, I forgot to pay
the London Congestion Charge. After that, I travelled outside of
UK for a month. Since I hadn’t decided the new home at that
time, I only updated my v5c address after returning to the UK
and settling into my new home, which was about a month after the
date of violating tfl charge. In the following months, from
October to February I didn’t receive any letters or reminders
until recently when I got enforcement of moving belongings
letter(only after calling them, I found out it was about the
London Congestion Charge—otherwise, I even didn’t have idea what
it was about). Do I still have a chance to appeal?
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Re: Congestion charge. My first received letter is final
enforcement warning
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: March 13, 2025, 4:57 pm
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Is that the first document/notice you've received?
In particular, did you ever receive a "Notice of Enforcement"
from Marston?
The bailiff must have a warrant to enforce. Before they do so
they need to serve a Notice of Enforcement giving you seven
clear days to pay. I suspect that all of the statutory notices
and the NoE have gone to your previous address. Marston's have
then traced your current address. They should have informed TFL
who would then apply to the Traffic Enforcement Centre at
Northampton County Court for the warrant to be resealed
(reissued) with the new address.
Without a valid warrant at the correct name and address the
bailiff cannot enforce. They can however clamp your vehicle if
found in a public place. I suspect that Marston do not (yet)
have a valid warrant. But I might be wrong.
Why are you so vague about dates? It doesn't give a good
impression.
Waht is the:
Date of contravention?
Date of PCN, if known?
Date of moving out of home?
Date of travel abroad?
Date of return from abroad?
Date of moving into new home?
Date of change of address on V5c registration doc (doc ref
date)?
You'll need to submit a Statutory Declaration to the effect that
you did not receive the original Penalty Charge Notice together
with an Out of Time application to the TEC at Northampton County
Court. You'll need a snappy concise reason as to why you're late
otherwise TFL will object and your SD will be refused.
I suggest that you contact Bailiff Advice Online
HTML https://bailiffadviceonline.co.uk/
for guidance on how to handle
the bailiff and what to put on the OoT application. Don't
attempt an OoT with advice from BAO and/or this forum.
#Post#: 62444--------------------------------------------------
Re: Congestion charge. My first received letter is final
enforcement warning
DIR By: gky
Date: March 13, 2025, 11:01 pm
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--- Quote from: Enceladus link ---
>
> Is that the first document/notice you've received?
> In particular, did you ever receive a "Notice of Enforcement"
from Marston?
>
> The bailiff must have a warrant to enforce. Before they do so
they need to serve a Notice of Enforcement giving you seven
clear days to pay. I suspect that all of the statutory notices
and the NoE have gone to your previous address. Marston's have
then traced your current address. They should have informed TFL
who would then apply to the Traffic Enforcement Centre at
Northampton County Court for the warrant to be resealed
(reissued) with the new address.
>
> Without a valid warrant at the correct name and address the
bailiff cannot enforce. They can however clamp your vehicle if
found in a public place. I suspect that Marston do not (yet)
have a valid warrant. But I might be wrong.
>
> Why are you so vague about dates? It doesn't give a good
impression.
> Waht is the:
> Date of contravention?
> Date of PCN, if known?
> Date of moving out of home?
> Date of travel abroad?
> Date of return from abroad?
> Date of moving into new home?
> Date of change of address on V5c registration doc (doc ref
date)?
>
> You'll need to submit a Statutory Declaration to the effect
that you did not receive the original Penalty Charge Notice
together with an Out of Time application to the TEC at
Northampton County Court. You'll need a snappy concise reason as
to why you're late otherwise TFL will object and your SD will be
refused.
>
> I suggest that you contact Bailiff Advice Online
HTML https://bailiffadviceonline.co.uk/
for guidance on how to handle
the bailiff and what to put on the OoT application. Don't
attempt an OoT with advice from BAO and/or this forum.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thank you for your helping. :) I am going to ask bailiff advice
probably it’s more related to my problem. From my side, yes it
is my first received letter.
The date of happen was 9/9/2024. I moved home at 11/9. Travelled
out from 12/9-15/10. I moved in new address at 16/10. I changed
v5c at 1/11. I think you’re probably right about how this letter
sent. Now I recently travelled away for another month, so I
asked my friend to check my mailbox regularly. According to him,
this is the only letter I received. It also had two layers of
envelopes—the first one was addressed to my old address, and the
second outside one was sent to my current address. I’m not sure
if they ever visited my home. don’t know how they managed to do
this.
#Post#: 62482--------------------------------------------------
Re: Congestion charge. My first received letter is final
enforcement warning
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: March 14, 2025, 7:22 am
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Notice dated 17 Feb, has nothing happened in the last 4 weeks at
either address?
The date of happen was 9/9/2024. I moved home at 11/9. Travelled
out from 12/9-15/10. I moved in new address at 16/10. I changed
v5c at 1/11. I think you’re probably right about how this letter
sent. Now I recently travelled away for another month, so I
asked my friend to check my mailbox regularly. According to him,
this is the only letter I received. It also had two layers of
envelopes—the first one was addressed to my old address, and the
second outside one was sent to my current address. I’m not sure
if they ever visited my home. don’t know how they managed to do
this.
OP, you and we need precision.
Previous address on V5C = address A;
Current and successor address on V5C = B
Moved out of A on 11 Sept.
Moved into B on 16 Oct.
Updated V5C from A to B on 1 Nov. (online and therefore
instant?);
Updated V5C received around ****?
Away from B between ** and ***;
Asked friend to to check my mail for A;
They found an outer envelope addressed to B inside which was
another envelope addressed to A inside which was a notice which
stated that it had been 'Delivered by Hand' on 17 Feb.
Is the above correct?
Could it be that the notice was delivered by hand on 17th to A
and that whoever now lives there sent to you, unopened, in the
outer envelope? If so, then the bailiff doesn't know your
address, or didn't on 17th.
Have you revisited A or contacted whoever is there? Perhaps
forwarded when new owners/tenants moved in?
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