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       #Post#: 5680--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Council PCN with blue badge
   DIR By: Pastmybest
       Date: September 21, 2023, 1:27 pm
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       There is one sign at each end of the bays near to where the OP
       parked it is affixed to the wall and at the other end a post. I
       would suggest that the sign the OP photographed the one the CEO
       photoed was at the other end on the post For me the OP was
       entitled to believe the that any suspension was over
       #Post#: 5746--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Council PCN with blue badge
   DIR By: Cohlas
       Date: September 22, 2023, 3:18 am
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       Yeah so:
       No cones were I parked
       Sign on the meter where the cones were had no times on. I didn't
       pay (sign may block the machine)
       The disabled parking opposite the venue wasn't accessible
       because the street was blocked by removing a clamped vehicle! So
       there was nowhere to park. If I'd have known I would have parked
       on double yellows, as you get 3 hours with a badge.
       I thought 1) the restriction was over and 2) it was OK with a
       badge.
       The fact further up there were cones, and then they stopped for
       a number of bays was not clear.
       #Post#: 5841--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Council PCN with blue badge
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: September 22, 2023, 5:43 pm
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       Here is North Parade:
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/siCwA1FK6pLGYQfT6
       It's not new at all as it was there in 2008 and has likely been
       there for decades if not centuries, it's just not mapped on
       google maps.
       Anyway, this should be reasonably straightforward:
       [indent]
       Dear Manchester City Council,
       I challenge liability for PCN MC26350004 on the ground that the
       alleged contravention did not occur. This is because there was
       no signage in the vicinity of my car indicating the extent of
       any restrictions. While all the photos of my car were taken
       between 3:55 and 3:57 pm, the only photo the CEO took of the
       sign is timed at 4:03 pm, which suggests that the CEO had to
       walk no less than six minutes from my car to the sign. The sign
       cannot therefore have been visible from where my car was parked.
       While there was a sign close to my car, that sign did not carry
       any information, I refer you to the photo I have uploaded at
       (link)
       In light of the above the alleged contravention did not occur.
       Yours faithfully,
       [/indent]
       I will PM you a link to put in the representation, it will
       redirect to
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/NbJBKdJ
       but if you use the link
       I'll PM you, we can use the click count to confirm whether
       they've looked at it or not. If they don't click on it, we can
       then prove they've failed to consider all of the evidence. If
       they say in the rejection that they've considered all the
       evidence, we've got them for lying as well.
       #Post#: 5961--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Council PCN with blue badge
   DIR By: Cohlas
       Date: September 24, 2023, 10:58 am
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       Perfect ! Thanks so much.
       Yes sorry I clicked the link do I need new one to attach?
       #Post#: 5964--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Council PCN with blue badge
   DIR By: Cohlas
       Date: September 24, 2023, 11:10 am
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       Sorry I've seen you have pmd. Many thanks
       #Post#: 6385--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Council PCN with blue badge
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: September 29, 2023, 4:12 pm
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       Well done to Manchester City Council for at least looking at the
       evidence. Expect a rejection any day.
       #Post#: 6408--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Council PCN with blue badge
   DIR By: Cohlas
       Date: September 30, 2023, 5:57 am
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       So they've looked at it - why rejection thought case was strong
       ?
       #Post#: 6445--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Council PCN with blue badge
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: September 30, 2023, 6:28 pm
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       --- Quote from: Cohlas link ---
       >
       > So they've looked at it - why rejection thought case was
       strong ?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Because the amount due on the council website is £35, if they'd
       cancelled it it would be zero.
       That being said, councils reject 99% of informal representations
       because they know that most people will give up and pay at that
       point.
       #Post#: 6479--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Council PCN with blue badge
   DIR By: Cohlas
       Date: October 1, 2023, 6:36 am
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       OK do I still fight ? ( today last day of it being £35)
       I've won two privates before, one cancelled straight away, one
       didn't then I sent a follow up letter and won
       #Post#: 6507--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Council PCN with blue badge
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: October 2, 2023, 5:48 am
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       Have you received the rejection letter?
       In any case Manchester normally reoffers the discount if you
       challenge the notice to owner within 14 days, so on that basis
       you might as well carry on as it involved very limited risk.
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