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#Post#: 62236--------------------------------------------------
Accused of pulling a wheelie, red light infringement, and
speeding on motorcycle
DIR By: tyronejiggles
Date: March 12, 2025, 8:28 pm
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I hope you’re well. I am seeking legal advice regarding a
traffic stop that occurred around two hours ago while I was
riding my motorcycle. I would really appreciate some guidance on
how to proceed.
I was pulled over by a Metropolitan police car that was not a
designated traffic car and was accused of:
- Pulling a wheelie on my motorcycle
- Running a red light
- Speeding
No evidence was presented to me at the time, and I was not
issued any paperwork or informed of the alleged offence by the
letter of the law. The officers cautioned me and stated that the
alleged offences would be referred for a decision on whether I
would receive a warning or be prosecuted, but I was given no
formal documentation regarding this process. Given that this
was not a traffic police car, I highly doubt that their
speedometer was calibrated, meaning their speed-related
allegation may not be legally reliable as I understand.
Additionally, without any immediate disclosure of evidence, I am
unsure of the strength of the case against me.
I understand that I cannot have presented any evidence against
me without choosing to take the matter to court, which I feel is
too large a gamble. I would greatly appreciate your advice on my
legal position and the best course of action to take should this
proceed to prosecution. I have 0 points, have held my A2 license
for just under 2 years, and have completed a 'What's Driving
Us?' course in 2024.
#Post#: 62253--------------------------------------------------
Re: Accused of pulling a wheelie, red light infringement, and
speeding on motorcycle
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: March 13, 2025, 4:04 am
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Realistically, no advice can be given until you find out what
the police plan to do.
It is clear you were warned at the time that you may be
prosecuted, so no Notice of Intended Prosecution is required. If
the police do intend to prosecute you they have six months to do
so and in many areas they take all of that time. If they offer
any out-of-court solutions those offers will come sooner.
Is there any substance to these allegations?
#Post#: 62261--------------------------------------------------
Re: Accused of pulling a wheelie, red light infringement, and
speeding on motorcycle
DIR By: JustLoveCars
Date: March 13, 2025, 5:04 am
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--- Quote from: tyronejiggles link ---
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> No evidence was presented to me at the time, and I was not
issued any paperwork or informed of the alleged offence by the
letter of the law.
> The officers cautioned me and stated that the alleged offences
would be referred for a decision on whether I would receive a
warning or be prosecuted, but I was given no formal
documentation regarding this process.
--- End Quote ---
Nor do they have to - no paperwork is required to be issued to
you at the roadside. The nature of the offences was made clear
to you. All of those could be dealt with under a Careless
Driving. 'Deliberate' wheelies has the potential for Dangerous
Driving where you should consider professional legal advice.
--- Quote from: tyronejiggles link ---
>
> Given that this was not a traffic police car, I highly doubt
that their speedometer was calibrated, meaning their
speed-related allegation may not be legally reliable as I
understand. Additionally, without any immediate disclosure of
evidence, I am unsure of the strength of the case against me.
>
--- End Quote ---
Doesn't need to be a 'traffic police car'. In regards to the
speeding allegation, their speedo doesn't necessarily have to be
'calibrated'. (Remember the allegation will be exceeding the
limit, not reaching a given speed) They may or may not have
video - probably not, but this doesn't invalidate the officer's
potential testimony.
--- Quote from: tyronejiggles link ---
>
> I understand that I cannot have presented any evidence against
me without choosing to take the matter to court, which I feel is
too large a gamble.
>
--- End Quote ---
I think this provides a possible answer to NJ's question.
As noted, wait and see what happens next...
#Post#: 62272--------------------------------------------------
Re: Accused of pulling a wheelie, red light infringement, and
speeding on motorcycle
DIR By: Freecall
Date: March 13, 2025, 5:49 am
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As others have said, there is nothing more to be done until you
receive something from the police which could still be almost
six months away.
I suspect that you will already know in your heart whether or
not you did 'pull a wheelie'. If you did, then I would expect a
prosecution for that with the relevant charge. If not (or it
was very marginal) then if you are lucky maybe just the
speeding.
#Post#: 62308--------------------------------------------------
Re: Accused of pulling a wheelie, red light infringement, and
speeding on motorcycle
DIR By: ManxTom
Date: March 13, 2025, 9:24 am
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--- Quote from: tyronejiggles link ---
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>
>
> ... I was pulled over by a Metropolitan police car that was
not a designated traffic car...
>
> ... No evidence was presented to me at the time, and I was not
issued any paperwork or informed of the alleged offence by the
letter of the law....
>
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Do you think that whether or not it was a "designated traffic
car" (whatever that is) has any significance here?
And what do you mean when you say that you were not informed of
the offence "by the letter of the law"?
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