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       #Post#: 62130--------------------------------------------------
       35mph in a 20mph
   DIR By: 1990child
       Date: March 12, 2025, 11:32 am
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       Received a NIP early February after being caught by a mobile
       camera device, doing 35mph in a 20mph zone.
       Second offence, already have 6 points on my licence.
       Received a response thanking me for my response and because I
       was going too fast, court proceedings are being initiated and I
       will receive communication shortly to advise of options
       available to me.
       What am I looking at, realistically?
       Please don't comment with anything unhelpful.
       #Post#: 62135--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 35mph in a 20mph
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: March 12, 2025, 11:47 am
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       Band B covers 31-40mph in a 20mph limit - which is 4-6 points
       *or* a short ban - so probably 5 points, 100% weekly takehome
       pay fine (minus 1/3 discount for an early guilty plea). And 40%
       "surcharge" on the fine, and ~£95 prosecution costs for a guilty
       plea or ~£620 prosecution costs if you lose a contested trial.
       #Post#: 62373--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 35mph in a 20mph
   DIR By: 1990child
       Date: March 13, 2025, 1:58 pm
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       So today I received an SJPN to submit my plea.
       I've just submitted a guilty plea, but I'm now wondering, does
       this mean I'm still at risk of being banned from driving or if
       they were going to do this, they would have done so already?
       Thanks for any further advice.
       #Post#: 62375--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 35mph in a 20mph
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: March 13, 2025, 2:04 pm
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       An SJPN commences proceedings against you. By definition, you
       cannot be banned before proceedings have commenced.
       #Post#: 62519--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 35mph in a 20mph
   DIR By: Freecall
       Date: March 14, 2025, 10:15 am
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       --- Quote from: 1990child link ---
       >
       > ....does this mean I'm still at risk of being banned from
       driving....
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       As andy_foster has already said, your speeding falls into Band B
       which is 31-40mph in a 20mph limit.
       This will attract between 4 and 6 points or a short ban.
       Although not an exact science, unless there is some other
       aggravating factor you have not mentioned (such as passing a
       school at kicking-out time or similar) then 35mph is pretty much
       in the middle of the scale.
       Almost certainly 5 points.
       #Post#: 62615--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 35mph in a 20mph
   DIR By: 1990child
       Date: March 14, 2025, 8:05 pm
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       I've logged onto view my driving licence online and it looks
       like I've been given 5 points plus a fine of £492 without any of
       the extra charges they will tag on.
       I will be driving very VERY carefully for the foreseeable.
       Lesson has been well and truly learnt.
       Thanks for all your replies.
       #Post#: 62616--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 35mph in a 20mph
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: March 14, 2025, 8:14 pm
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       The DVLA site shows the endorsement (points and endorsement
       code) and the fine. It does not show the surcharge or
       prosecution costs.
       #Post#: 62617--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 35mph in a 20mph
   DIR By: 1990child
       Date: March 14, 2025, 8:28 pm
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       Thanks - I'm aware they need to add on the other charges. By
       being able to see the endorsement online it is just a weight off
       my mind knowing that I am not looking at a ban.
       --- Quote from: andy_foster link ---
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       > The DVLA site shows the endorsement (points and endorsement
       code) and the fine. It does not show the surcharge or
       prosecution costs.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 62636--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 35mph in a 20mph
   DIR By: ManxTom
       Date: March 15, 2025, 5:55 am
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       --- Quote from: 1990child link ---
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       > I've logged onto view my driving licence online and it looks
       like I've been given 5 points plus a fine of £492 without any of
       the extra charges they will tag on...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That seems very quick if you only received the SJPN two days
       ago.
       #Post#: 62643--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 35mph in a 20mph
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: March 15, 2025, 6:35 am
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       Indeed it does. Does your DVLA record show he date of
       conviction?
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